The conversation page works exactly like this one. People post stuff they like to talk about and show family photos, talk about other things they grow, what their crafts are, how to fix something or what great Furniture their hubby is building, how their pasta turned out and what to do with their bunions! lol It's about non amaryllis talk. Just conversations between friends. pax, Spike sold out the original site to iVillage. I miss Spike. Having some IT knowledge, we used to talk about the spammers and idiots that would try to overtake posts. Sigh, I hope he/she made tons of bucks for this friendly forum he/she started! It was a wonderful creation of a very talented person to get it up an running and find so many people interested in talking about gardening. Then dividing it into specific topics! I first found Garden Web when we were building our home and searching for the right plants and trees for SW Florida. I fell into the most generous and Friendly lap of the Florida forum. I learned so much and am still learning. Many of those folks have become my friends. We have swaps all year long all over Florida and it is amazing to have this knowledge bank at my access! I remember about 2 years ago when there was no specific Amaryllis forum. We all went to the bulb forum and sought out Hans for Amaryllis help. Then finally they gave us our own Amaryllis forum. God Bless Spike for getting it all started!

Hi, Patty, Lin posts as barkingdogwoods and her thread is titled "Here, Pretty Girl". It is a very heartwarming story about finding her greyhound after a long period of time.

Sylvia, Is there anything else you might want? I have a gallon container of Lycoris squamigera & radiata mixed together. It's between half and 2/3 full. Some are damaged but the ones that did not have a substantial portion of basal plate attached I chucked in the yard. If I still have them at the time you'd be welcome to them and I could dig a couple of Hardy Amaryllis for you if not. Frank

Funcolors, Amy and others have used full spectrum colors like EK. When I hear conversations of those paints, it seems like the users are embracing the different nuances that they bring to a space. First let's think about how we change or create nuance. What is it. Nuance = LRV + Chromaticity. LRV is how light or dark, how much light a color can measurably reflect back into the room and how much it absorbs. Chromaticity is pureness of hue, how close is the color to a neutral gray. Two separate *parts* of color, each normally referred to as a value. LRV is light/dark value and chromaticity is grayscale value. Changing nuance - or purposefully constructing nuance is done via the mixing colorants process. You have a choice. Go tonalist and use black, grays or go colorist and don't use black, grays but instead use chords of complements. With full spectrum, yes, the expectation is already in place that the color is responsive to light. It has a *full spectrum* of molecules of color built in to it with which to react to, and interact with, whatever mange of wavelengths of light take up residence in a room. The nuance of a full spectrum color is different than the nuance of a non full spectrum color because of the basic building blocks of the color. There's no way they can be equal or the same. So the quality of nuance that full spectrum color users are embracing and accepting as it changes is different. You can produce what appears as *the same* color using different methods. Take a color chip to the paint store and one person will custom color match it one way; hand the same chip to a different person and they'll likely chose another route - a similar, but different combination of colorants to arrive at the same end game. Both will produce what is essentially *the same* color, but each will have a different timbre of nuance because of the amounts of each colorant and the precise combination of the colorants chosen at the descretion of the color mixer. I feel it is the timbre of nuance of full spectrum color that people embrace. Does it take a different type of person to like a color that seems to be in a constant flux or does the average user just need to be told that it's OK for paint to change color at times? It's funny because as a retort to what full spectrum is, I've seen people respond that they don't want a schizo paint color on their walls that radically morphs their room as the light changes. Part of establishing *expectations* is sharing the understanding that ALL wall colors respond to the light and change. The difference is that in this new age of color, you can control more aspects of how wall color responds to the unique, inherent light of your space. You can make choices custom to your tolerances and inherent lighting. A single paint color is gonna change wall to wall, angle to angle. That's a fact, can't do anything about it. What we can do, to an extent, is choose the how, choose the degree, choose the kind of change we prefer. It's a choice. Could even look at as a *new* layer of contrast with which to create unique atmosphere. Juxtapose a highly responsive paint color to one that has the ability to stay more constant light source to light source. It's too darn much fun. Again, FS vs. regular color is a choice, it's not a competition as far which one is real, or better, or worthy of your dollars. It's simply about options. In fact I noticed on the Devine website recently that Gretchen is talking up the constancy, the low metameric risk with which her colors are mixed. If I read it all right, she's now softly marketing the opposite of what full spectrum color is. My thoughts are Devine's proclamations about the constancy of their colors is far easier for more people to accept than the chameleon intents of full spectrum color. Ironic because fundamentally Devine and FS are both peddling the same aspect of color, just at opposite ends of the effect. Metamerism has long been an undesirable element to coloring in general and the old guard of color can't imagine why shifting color would be a good thing -- ever. Ironic that they understand that you can *do* stuff to limit metamerism, but they don't accept the flip side that you can *want* it and purposefully use it. It's like saying you can have night but day isn't convenient for me to get my head around so it's not real. Color lines like even keeled Devine will be considered valid and garner acceptance while suspecting criticism will continue to dog full spectrum.