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Shiloh Cabinets--Initial Impressions/Review

edlakin
15 years ago

My Shiloh cabinets arrived last week and we began installing them yesterday.

My initial impression is that these things are built like tanks. The boxes are all 1 1/2" plywood construction and the sides are 3/4" plywood with 1/4" veneer panels. The drawers are 3/4" plywood as well. These are heavy cabinets. They use all wood hanging rails and wood corner blocks--no plastic except the stuff that they wrapped them in.

They were very carefully wrapped in foam sheeting and then in plastic. Each cabinet was well labelled with a computer-printed label specifying "cabinet no. x" that corresponded to a plan my KD did, so it was very clear where each was to go.

They gave us plenty of panels and fillers as well. We also ordered crown moulding, posts, valences, and other stuff to go with the cabinets but haven't checked those out yet.

The finish is lovely. We got green painted maple with a "pewter" glaze and wear/sand thru, and red stained cherry with a black glaze and wear. Very nice. Glazing is consistent and just in the spots where you'd expect it to be. Wear/Sand thru looks nice, but not overdone.

These cabinets arrived about 5 weeks after we finalized my order. They also shipped all the gadgets (pull outs, tray base, etc) separately so the installers didn't have to remove them to hang the cabinets. nice touch.

All in all, a pretty impressive initial impression.

Comments (165)

  • Rudebekia
    7 years ago

    Just had my white inset Shaker style Shiloh cabinets installed, and love them. This is the second time I've used Shiloh in a kitchen remodel. If you have specific questions feel free to ask. I looked at Starmark too but didn't like their finishes vs. the Shiloh.

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    Anglophilia
    7 years ago

    My Shiloh cabinets are in and they are gorgeous! The finish is outstanding (and I'm VERY picky), and they are clearly a very high quality cabinet.

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    last modified: 5 years ago

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  • kdarrigo
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    Thanks. I hope someone can help us. There are so many flaws and discolorations in our cabinets. So disappointing

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    Looking at your first photo, I think the installer did the damage and tried to touch it up. The only area we have Rustic finish spots are in the center of the front panel. The door frames are all normal. Nothing that would show up in the beading as seen in your picture.

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  • Donna Loren
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    5 years later and still wish I hadn’t gone with them. They do not hold up well and wish I had realized the warranty was a whole 3 years. Be warned, they only cover a certain percentage of the project if they have damage. I had about 2/3 of my project had to go back AFTER they arrived at my house. It set the project back close to 3 months and my Kitchen company ate what wasn’t covered by Shiloh. I have pics to prove it all

  • davidswat114
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    Donna I am currently looking at Shiloh cabinets through my builder. Would you share what area you live in, I.e. south east, north east, west, etc or even the state? I’m going with a painted cabinet but maybe stain the island for the kitchen. I am disappointed to read so many negative reviews. Any information you can add to your original post would be appreciated

  • Donna Loren
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    Going on 7 years later, and I wouldn't change a thing I've said about Shiloh. They are the worst. Their CS is worthless (as stated previously) because if anything happens during delivery and it was NOT delivery that caused it, they only cover a certain percentage. My kitchen is aesthetically pleasing, but that's it. Anything that slightly touches this knicks the paint and it gets worse as time goes on. I am in the NE, Central NY to be exact. IMHO, STAY AWAY! I can't be any more emphatic. I will NEVER use Shiloh again.

  • susanlynn2012
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    Thank you Donna Loren for sharing. So sorry about your issues with your Shiloh Cabinets.

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    2 years ago

    Can you post a few pictures Donna? I've carried Shiloh Cabinetry for 11 years since 2010 and sell close to a half million a year of that brand. I've not had one client come back to me on any long term warranty issues or that they're unhappy with the finish. Painted cabinets, in general, show more wear and tear than stained finishes.

  • HU-929846478
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    My cabinets were trimmed by an adolescent blind child. Absolutely MISSREABLE . I have contacted dealer and they were to notify manufacturer...2 weeks ago...NO ANSWER YET

  • HU-929846478
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    We recently had our new Shiloh cabinets installed. The glaze was obviously painted on by a blind adolescent child. UNBELIVEBALY TERRIBEL. We contacted our sales rep who was to contact corporate...we have had NO CONTACT for 2 weeks. TERRIBLE

  • susanlynn2012
    2 years ago

    Thank you for sharing HU092986478. So sorry this has happened to you.

  • S LYP
    2 years ago

    I recently purchased Shiloh cabinetry for my kitchen remodel project. The cocoa stained cherry wood looks amazing but I do see quite a few nicks on the cabinet doors and also had a very tall cabinet that a had a huge bubble on the side of the cabinet. For this review I will only discuss my trouble with the cabinet bubble defect. Unfortunately, the bubble defect was not discovered until the cabinet was installed. I immediately contacted the company I purchased the cabinets from and they promptly contacted Shiloh for a replacement. Now here’s where the story becomes interesting, since the cabinet is installed with moulding attached I requested Shiloh to also send new moulding just in case the old moulding became damaged during the uninstall of the defected cabinet.
    3 weeks later I receive the new cabinet and a phone call from the cabinet dealer that I owe them $300 for the new moulding because Shiloh will not cover the cost since the cabinet should not have been installed if the installer would have inspected the cabinet before installation. At this point I’m very irritated because the defected cabinet should have never been shipped to me if Shiloh’s QC department did their job was my response.
    At this point it’s also very disappointing to know that the cabinet dealer I worked with is not supporting the fact that Shiloh should cover the moulding cost or perhaps the cabinet dealer should cover this cost. What is the cabinet dealers responsibilities to make sure the cabinets received are in good condition prior to delivery to a customer. Why assign a designer and project manager to my project if they can’t take the time view the product themselves as well. But I guess since I didn’t use cabinet dealer’s installation services their care for the customer and quality of the product diminished. Why hasn’t a Shiloh rep been out to view my issues??

  • PRO
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    2 years ago

    Sly, 


    1. That sounds like Shiloh. Sorry, no surprise there.

    2. Yeah, the dealer SHOULD BE embarrassed asking you for the $$$. The dealer is YOUR advocate.

  • John
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    @The Kitchen Place any comment on Donna's statement about warranty -> "...because if anything happens during delivery and it was NOT delivery that caused it, they only cover a certain percentage." Why would they only cover a certain percentage? I expect PERFECT tender of the cabinets. If I inspect them when I receive them and find issues, I expect it replaced or 100% refund

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    I wish my Polar cabinets looked this good. Mine all have paint cracks in the joinery. Delivered then installed that way. Is on my bottom cabinets as well. Builder is fighting for replacements and they should be here soon. Fingers crossed and hoping mine look as pretty as yours.

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    I thought I would provide a Shiloh cabinet 6 1/2 yr update. Still love my cabinets. We just had them installed in our newly finished basement bar. I will post those pictures also. These pictures are close up of the most used cabinets. There is no wear. We did the option of having the center panel (not the frame) of each door made of Furniture quality MDF. We were assured this was the way to go, with especially a painted finish because the joints expand and over time with a all wood door and will crack the finish at the corner over time. I totally forgot we did that because the quality is so nice.

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    We used Shiloh cabinets in our basement bar and bathrooms. Absolutely love them. Having a good installer is so important. One who handles the cabinets with care.

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    last modified: last year

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    Regarding the doors bumping to each othe or not opening all the way that's the fault of the designer, GC whoever designed your kitchen. It required fillers.

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    Offering honest feedback to "HU-242728640".

    • "Doors do not line up with drawers. Every door had to be adjusted." >> Not uncommon with many mfg's. Transportation will cause doors/drawers to need adjustment. An installer "to do".

    • "Trim pieces were missing and our retailer told us trim only comes with "kitchen" cabinets, but not with "bathroom" cabinets." >> Even with kitchens (pick ANY brand), you don't get trim. It's a line item. The dealer selling you the cabinetry specifies, budgets, and orders any and all trim.

    • "Three others that were also made incorrectly were not replaced." >> Sounds like the dealer didn't order something correctly OR didn't (doesn't) know the product they sell, whereby "over selling it".

    • "We are adding felt stickers to many areas where one door bumps into another or into the wall. Drawers on one side cannot open without hitting drawer handles on opposite walls." >> 100% a designer error. I sold Shiloh years ago. They'll NOT proof your order. Order a cabinet too big... that's on the dealer. Even if the (submitted) plan says 30" wide, they'll make a 36" IF you order 36".

    • "Poorly designed, poor construction, real wood, but so is balsa wood. These cabinets will not last a lifetime and will not hold all of our kitchen items. Several shelves are unusable because of false drawer fronts added where doors should have been." >> Again, I was a Shiloh dealer... and yes... they have their issues. But I cannot throw them under the bus for issues that could've been, should've been, addressed by the dealer/designer. Most of your complaints should be directed to them.

    Often the problem begins with the designer/dealer/retailer. They fail to educate the homeowner/buyer as to what they're actually getting. If you're told Shiloh is high-end custom... it's not, they're lying. If there are design flaws, that's the designers fault . If the cabinet is flawed, that's on Shiloh. I used to show homeowners the difference between (then) Shiloh and true custom. There is a contrast in quality and (should be) price.

    All the best in remedying your issues.

    Jerry

  • HU-486566783
    12 days ago
    last modified: 12 days ago

    My wife and I installed our kitchen and bath vanities with Shiloh cabinetry seven years ago. The stained finish on the kitchen cabinetry (heatherwood grey on poplar) and the painted finish in the bathrooms (white on maple) are both flawless and beautiful (imho). Note: we did have to get a couple doors in the kitchen replaced upon install because the stain was lighter on given doors. It was resolved quickly and easily. I would buy from them again and recommend them as a supplier given our experience--and I use to be a kitchen designer. PS I am sorry for those who have had issues but I find it soooo hard to believe. Is it an issue isolated to regional distributors or something like it? Here are a few kitchen pics...






  • Jerry Hankins, Kitchen Guru
    11 days ago

    "Is it an issue isolated to regional distributors or something like it?" Im not aware of Shiloh (or other cabinet mfg's 'similar' to them) using a distributor, so 'dealer' network would be the norm. And YES, with a less than capable and competent designer/dealer, the experience the homeowner experiences with the cabinet mfg. (via the dealer) might not be what they expected if there is an issue.


    I've probably said it before in this Shiloh thread, Lord knows I advise my clientele: The experience one has is often hinged on "expectations" ... and dealers should be setting and managing those expectations. When they don't, it can spiral down from there. Sad too, given the investment of both time and money by the homeowner can be significant.

  • cristinehoffmann
    10 days ago
    last modified: 10 days ago

    We never did get Shiloh to stand behind their cabinets. We have to have a top panel remade by another cabinet maker! The local retailer who sold us the cabinets is not helping us either.