1st PB quote. What do you think?

15 years ago

32 x 18 freeform gunite pool

420 sq ft, 86' perimeter

two liquid amber trees removed (not terribly big)

Pool finish = tahoe blue

442sq ft decking, with deck-o-drain

equip pad 4x3

one skimmer, floor returns

auto-fill

2.5in pipe (10ft)

500w pool light

hayward 425 filter

Pentair lengend cleaner

hayward 3/4hp tri-star pump

goldline saltwater chlorine generator

He had a waterfall feature, but we rather have some more decking and drainage out to the street, since on that side of the yard we have a pooling problem already

$29,500

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Laura Ready
15 years ago
So, electrical is not included? What about permits? Does this include coping or any waterline tile? Do you have a drawing of the design to scan and post?
flchad
15 years ago
Based on what I am paying for my pool, I'd say that is in the ballpark. I'd inquire about what kind of timer/control you are getting. I left that in limbo and it is a lesson learned for me as I am getting charged a couple hundred more dollars than what I think is fair (which would be to pay parts upgrade cost only) to upgrade to automation.

You'll find that, since the salt is already imcluded, they can upgrade to a controller that includes the salt for just a couple hundred more dollars. Of course, after the fact they will want to charge you alot more. Poke around the web and find out what I am talking about when buying the salt cell (with the needed power box) and the salt cell that comes with the power box and automation - get part numbers for the equipment and be specific. You'd need some actuators too.

Also, get more quotes and I bet you would find you can negoitate the price down some, should you choose to do so. Or atleast get them to include the automation, some fan jets etc....

Also, is there a seperate vacuum line or are they using the skimmer? I'd ask them for a seperate vac line if not.

Lastly - if you think you want a waterfall someday, go ahead and ask them to plumb it now and cap the pipe. Then it is there when you want to add one later.
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15 years ago
Readyami
Electrical is included. He hand wrote the quote and his handwritting is not the best. Sub panel 30AMP, time clock included, J box included and coduit overrun 39'. Permits are included. I have a PDF version of the diagram, but can't load it in photobucket or Flicker in order to post.

I think the time/control for the SWCG is aqua-logic, based on the material. He's charging $1,400 for the SWCG set up.
Thanks flchad for the suggestions. I'll follow up and so some more research. I don't think we'd ever want the waterfall, we are kind of minimalists.

One thing nice is that he has the equipment pad, away from the house. He was goint to hide it with the water fall, so we'll have to think of an alternative hiding thing (bushes, rock placement)
poolanalyst
15 years ago
Looks almost too good to be true.Are you perhaps located in Florids,Las Vegas,or Phoenix?

The 3/4 hp pool pump is almost certainly not able to power the Legend cleaner.You will probably need a booster pump,or a larger pool pump.This oversight would lead me to express some doubt about the PB's experience level.
marylandpoolseeker
15 years ago
I'd be interested in hearing where you are located. Your quote is a lot lower than what has been quoted in the Washington, DC area.
nutbunch
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15 years ago
Hi all

I'm in central CA. The other two quotes were slightly higher. But in the general area. Although I'm up to $30,650 now that I want Pebblesheen (Aqua so far is my color of choice)

I will ask about the booster pump for the legend cleaner. Should the 3/4 pump be fine for filtration and the SWCG? The pool is on the smaller size 425 sq ft, what is that 20,000 gallons?
sdkath
15 years ago
Lucky you. Here in San Diego, that pool would be about $60000. Maybe the economy will help bring it down a little toward your price tag.

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