Have you ever seen the big tall poles with a propellor on them. They produce energy and for most people who put them in they produce more energy then they use and they start getting a check from the electic company instead of a bill. Problem is for most people the amountof money they are saving is not even close to the cost of the generator. (Est. $10-20,000_ With a bill of $500 dollars a month it would pay for itself in four years and then your electric is essentially free. I don't know about electric heat, but I would imagine you may still need more power than a single wind generator can produce. If you plan on staying in your house for a while it may be a worth while investment. In my case (or my fathers case) it would take too many years for the generator to pay for itself than is worth while for us and we don't have that kind of money upfront. It is easier to pay for the electric bill each month which is a smaller cost than the wind generator even though the long term costs are higher.

Roxanne- I'm nervous about the egg rooting method. The cutting is pretty dehydrated, somehwere between beef jerky and a once healthy cutting. In the past I've only had luck getting roots at this point if I snip the inflo, which is always a very sad occasion. But...I will read up on it before I take the plunge! Oh, the smell... well I know smell is subjective but this one smells like suntan lotion to me...so waxy coconut? This was a purchase from Matt at 1-stop-aloha on eBay. Its a beautiful orange! Desa- I stopped doing seedlings for just that reason....they took over!!! It sure is fun though! Mike- I bet you would love the real orange color even better! Just sayin' :) George- You wouldn't happen to be another fellow enabler? Would you? LOL I whole-heartedly agree with that statement but I've learned that I apparently see things differently than others. Well unless it's fellow forum members :) Laura So I was cruizing along on JJ's site, doing a little fantasy shopping. I was actually up to $1200.00 imaginary dollars....LOL AND have you seen Fuji Mist? Cote d Or? Oh I am in love love! Do you know what I learned from my garage experience? My cuttings that I sneak in are safe there! (wicked laugh) Now I'm going to work on getting my UPS & USPS guys to see if I can get them to leave the packages by the garage door! Brilliant! Why didin't I think of that before? Metallica is sure being stubborn and slow to leaf out. I only have tiny claws(you know how I stress over this one!) On the brighter side of the bloom-Dazzler opened one sub-par bloom yesterday. Yay! What's on our shopping list this year? XO Nicole

Okay, now here is a slight hijack for all of you lovers of green. Being a "green person" I painted my kitchen BM Saybrook Sage several years ago. I love it and so does DH (he said he was surprised at how much he likes it). I painted the cabinets a creamy white (BM Lily of the Valley) and like that with the green. Problem is that we have two and sometimes three large long-haired dogs who sometimes get past us when they are wet and shake. We also have 60-something eyes that often miss drips or dirt on the cabinets unless I put on my glasses and look carefully. DH doesn't even bother to look! Now, I am not saying I won't be cleaning, but I do want to avoid that moment of horror that I occasionally get if someone drops by and then I notice drips or something after they go and wonder what they thought if they noticed the mess. So, does anyone have any ideas of a shade I could paint the lower cabinets that would work with the sage and with the upper cabinets which will stay white (dark kitchen when lights aren't on during the day). Thanks and feel free to ignore me if you think I should start a new thread. Just seemed that with all of us loving green, this would be a good time!

i lost my senior great dane girl 5 weeks ago to bone cancer. it was sudden and shocking and i still look for her. my remaining dane girl and eden were joined at the hip, pip took the loss very hard and had been grieving so much, it broke my heart. i contacted pip's breeder and one of her former co-owners and asked that they keep an eye out for any adults that any breeder friends might be considering a new home for (retired show dogs, etc.). the co-owner gave me the contact information for one of her people who had a dane boy she had been looking for just the right home for and the rest is history. meet "flighty foto my way", call name "frank". frank will be 4 years old on 5/31. he is a very sweet boy and he and pippin hit it off immediately at our meet 'n' greet friday. they do zoomies numerous times a day, sleep curled up together and are just a perfect pair. pippin is so much happier and that makes me happier. even though i miss eden terribly, i am beginning to heal now that pip is feeling better. frank is a bit on the thin side because he lived the last 4 weeks with a female dane who was going through a heat cycle and when that's going on, intact males ignore food, do a lot of pacing and fretting and routinely lose weight. he's eating like a horse so i'm confident he will gain and be back to his normal weight soon. i'm giving him a few weeks to settle in and then i'll make an appointment to have him neutered.