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Ready Seal on ipe deck

17 years ago

I know there are two basic points of view on this site; TWP and the new product, WoodZotic.

I have had about 3 or 4 people come to give me a bid to do the stain work on my ipe deck (built last Aug/Sep; not yet stained - live in NJ; deck does NOT get full sun; faces West, with house to the East) and all of them have different opinions. One was willing to use TWP, although in NJ I think I can only get the 516.

I am really intrigued with Ken's new product, but of course, as of now, no one has heard of it, and they all caution against a new product that does not have years of history to judge by.

The one guy I am leaning to has recommended Ready Seal; he seemed to most closely remark about most of what I have read here - not wanting to leave a film; not wanting to "seal" the deck, per se; etc.

I mentioned WoodZotic to him, and will be sending him more info today, including some clips from this site, and links.

My question is, and I realize it may be a tough one to answer - what if he says he will use the WoodZotic, but will not provide the same "warranty" he normally would due to his unfamiliarity with the product? Should I go with Ready Seal for this year, and perhaps "test" the new product this year (I am ordering a gallon today, to take advantage of the free shipping, and also so that I can test it, just in case I go this route)??

With ipe, is it a given that I will have to re-stain every year?

Help!

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pressurepro
17 years ago
I know most of the Ready Seal contractors in New Jersey. Your description sounds like something Rick P might say.

Ready Seal on ipe? ehhhhhhh, not real sure about that one. Ready Seal never cures it wants to keep penetrating into wood. On many species, especially older wood, thats fine. Ipe is loaded with natural oils. The Ready Seal wll want to continue penetrating and since it never cures I would guess it would just continue to leech out. Ipe needs a product with resins.

The WoodZotic formula has been used by contractors for a few years now. (not under the WoodZotic brand name and slightly modified) I have had it on my mahogany deck for two years. Its getting faded now and neds to be redone but prior to that the most I got out of ATO was 6-8 months.

WoodZotic is not really new technology or anything hocus pocus. Its a product made with unique resins, high levels of mildewcide and high levels of transoxide pigmentation. no expense is spared in its manufacture. If Cabot\\\'s or any of the big boys manufactured a product like this they would have to retail it for $85+ per gallon. Its not that Cabot\\\'s couldn\\\'t make a product like WoodZotic they choose not to because it probably wouldn\\\'t sell.
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mrmichaeljmoore
16 years ago
has anyone out there used Ready Seal on an Ipe deck.....and had success with it?

Or vice versa....has anyone used the Ready Seal on Ipe and had problems with it?
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dssxxxx
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