ipedepot recommends messmer's uv plus finish for hardwoods

pstrme

17 years ago

Is Messmer's UV Plus Finish for Hardwoods the best treatment for IPE? I want to keep the natural color?

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zzyzx242
17 years ago
My deck builder has built 100's of decks and will apply any stain you want, but if he had his choice he would only use Cabot Australian Timber Oil. He is constantly testing new stains, but continues to use the Cabot, especially for the IPE.

My house faces directly west in the hot texas sun and my first application of stain lasted about 3 months, I was shocked! This is due to the extreme density of the wood. Apparently, it will start taking the stain better year after year. My deck guy came out 2 weeks ago and just applied 10 more gallons of the Cabot for free.
john_hyatt
17 years ago
The best finish for ipe I have found yet is twp 116 rustic,or 516 rustic if the green mafia has outlawed the 116 in your area. John
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Granted its only been 4 months of what has been a mild winter, but it looks great and is holding up great.
joyce54
17 years ago
As per the Ipe Depot and the Guys at Advantage Trim and Lumber I too use the Messmers U.V. Plus on my Ipe and it seems to work great. I love the color and most of all I love how it has the ability to penetrate the Ipe better then most products out there all in all Go with the Messmers you will be very happy

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