Coffehaus, if I remember you're not too far from me (comparitively), so if you're doing well with Super Marzano I bet there's a fair chance I will too. I'll keep an eye out for it next year at seed ordering time. I forget who mentioned Ox Heart-types (m to lazy to scroll up to search for the name), but I was interested to see that at least one of my catalogs considers them to be paste tomatoes too. I never knew that! Of course, that ignorance comes in part from me have to strenuously limit what I allow myself to read about (and desire) at seed ordering time. I've got a bunch of tomatoes today that are less than wonderful fresh, maybe I'll try a ilttle roasting test and see if they become transformed. Everyone's enthusiasm is catching!

Pat, I asked around the office today and the only DQ here in the Tulsa Metro is a combo with Orange Julious(sp) in the big mall. I don't do the big mall very often and I think it's a new thing. I've had some good times out at Keystone back in the day. One of my sales reps lives in Mannford, same area as Cleveland and she said no DQ's to be found. There are some in other smaller towns around the state though. There is a chance I might be in Dustin sometime in the next year or so. A friend has an Aunt who owns a rental on the beach that we would like to go to and chill out for a long weekend. Not sure how far you are from there but if you are close we will have to get together. It would be great to meet you and have a drink or a DQ! David

I pulled up this thread last weekend to find the recipe that I failed at two years and one week prior. I don't think I'll ever figure out exactly what went so drastically wrong the first time I made Elaine's Chile Sauce, but fortunately Sharon took pity on me and shipped a jar as part of a very sweet surcie. So with that memory in mind, I finally gave it another shot. This time it came out as expected and while there were still a couple tiny bumps in the road I won't bore you with, my biggest mistake was making just half a batch. Can't say I wasn't warned; scroll up and you'll see where Sharon says, "Easily halved but you'll be sorry.........." I'm already through half a jar, having enjoyed most of that on meatloaf (Bobby Flay's Throwdown! recipe, which by the way is incredible IMO) and the rest, well, just on a spoon. Figured I'd bump up this thread since the recipe is here, and also to call out Bobby and David, neither of whom I've seen post in a while. Thanks for everything, Sharon!

Well, having said I used canned sauce with whole berries, I had quite a surprise on Wed night when I finally started to make my cranberry sauce. I had used Kroger's Quick List - order online, select pick-up time, go to special place in the parking lot, call number on sign, and ones groceries are carried out and put the the car. I've used it before with no problems. Not this time! I opened both cans and started to pour them into a mixing bowl so I could add the fresh orange juice and zest. They had given me the JELLIED cranberry sauce, not the one with whole berries! I'm sure there was a Kroger open somewhere at 11PM on Wed, but I wasn't going to get dressed again and go out. Fortunately, I had also ordered 2 packages of fresh cranberries to use in the Nantucket Pie I take to my pulmonary rehab for our Christmas party. Well, there's a first time for everything, so I followed the recipe on the bag, cooked it WAY down so it was very thick, added the fresh squeezed OJ (don't like to cook it - can make it bitter) and the fresh orange zest. Easy, peasy! And delicious. I will forget canned from now on.