I don't mean to hijack this thread, but... I have some very specific questions for blueberry_girl about her sink: DH and I are looking at the Verity for our remodel. Kohler shows a version that sits on TOP of the counter with a 4 inch tall apron, or a farmhouse style undercounter version that has a much taller apron, maybe 10 or 12 inches tall? I am curious about your Verity. Is it the former (4 inch tall apron) or the later (10 inch tall apron)? The Kohler catalog suggests the countertop version "MAY be installed undercounter." Both units have exactly the same basin size and depth, but we would prefer a less expansive apron. So DH is looking at getting the countertop version but installing it undercounter with a 4 inch apron reveal on the front edge. Some fancy cabinet work will be required to hide the lower portion of the basin since the apron won't do that. Just wondering if you happen to have the countertop version installed undercounter, or the "official" farmhouse style undercounter version and how it all fits together. Thanks for any information you can provide!!

One fact: 16 gauge is a better quality sink than 18 gauge and likely to be quieter. That accounts for some price difference. As long as the size, depth and drain placement are what's required, 16-gauge stainless sinks are a fixture where money can be saved. The x factor is whether the grid or any accessory needed is included or not. I've used a top of the line Julien sink and an 18-gauge Elkay. The maintenance is the same, they will both give a lifetime of service and they are both cleaned in the same way. The difference can be the surface finish (mirror, brushed, satin etc) and how that choice works vs expectations of how the sink should look both during use and after cleaning. Ditto on ditch the dish drainer.

I asked my fabricators to go against the install instructions and did a very small negative reveal instead as I like sweeping things off the counter into the sink and have less edges to catch grime, my soap dispenser clears it just fine. Can't vouch for how well that holds up yet, but it was mechanically fastened so it's not going anywhere! Don't get me wrong there are scratches like Carries right away from use (at least for me and my metal pots that get washed by hand), but I have a high tolerance for that sort of thing since this is a tool and I use it all the time!

Elkay Quartz Luxe in Caviar. She sold the house with this sink and I put another in her new one. Send for the color chips please.