Stay calm, Marsha, I didn't mean to imply you're on the DG marketing team, or anything, but although their section on use of material is much less lengthy than the one in the new iVillage TOS (as are their sections in pretty much ALL of their TOS, which is about the size of GW's OLD TOS when Spike still owned it), it DOES have the same gist to it, i.e., that they're saying they can use whatever you contribute however they see fit. It's kind of like some magazines that accept a lot of submissions from readers... For instance, I subscribe to "Birds & Blooms," and I LOVE the magazine... Each issue is FULL of plenty of beautiful pictures and occasionally a useful article or two, as well :) MANY of those photographs happen to be user-contributed, however, through various sections of the magazine where they tell you how you can contribute and in most cases they say something to the effect that "photographs cannot be returned and become the property of 'Birds & Blooms,'" thereby getting a lot of content for free -- or they sometimes will say they'll send you a free "suncatcher" or something similar if they use your photograph (token payment). That sort of thing is quite common among smaller PAPER publications. The INTERNET, on the other hand, is still a rather young and evolving area, and I think this idea of forums laying claim to perpetual use of all material posted on them might be a growing trend, since I now see it on both Dave's Garden and in the new iVillage TOS... Prior to this development, the internet, still being very much a sort of "wild west editorial environment," has had forums like these with sometimes experts and even famous people posting on them as just "regular Joes," sharing their knowledge and expertise, perhaps in some cases even relieved to finally be able to have something resembling "public conversations" without having to worry about being swamped by fans, and so forth, or repeatedly asked for free professional advice because people know they actually happen to be Dr. Phil, or Steven King, or whoever. And NO, I'm definitely NOT one of THOSE people... At one point a few years ago, I had a bit of "local celebrity" status as a weekly newspaper editor, but the biggest thing I've ever published was the cover story for a state-wide public policy journal read by all the lawmakers and public officials in SC... And I'm not aware of any such folks on the Carolina Gardening forum, but I DO know of at least one Professor of Environmental Sciences at the University of Vermont who is a sometimes (used to be regular) poster on the Ponds forum and wrote that forum's FAQs. He's been featured in pond programs on national programs on Public Television, too. I seriously doubt HE'D appreciate having HIS contributions -- many of which he doubtless gained through years of research and study both in his pond and at the university -- appropriated by iVillage to use for THEIR advertising, without attribution, for free. As for the photographs, Yeah, I've done a bit of "professional photography." I shot many of the photographs for several of the papers I worked for, and I also shot weddings for a while, and got some really good shots... And today, with digital cameras and the ability to see what you have and keep shooting until you get what you want, I can get even better shots (My theory on professional photographers has long been that the biggest difference between most pros and serious amateurs was how many shots they could afford to take)... So nowadays, I'm getting some garden shots I think are of publishable quality, although since I lost my paper I'm too blocked to get up the gumption to go back to free-lancing again... BUT I'd still like that option. And I'm sure I'm not the only one... If you want another example, go to the Ponds and Aquatic Plants forum, click on the Gallery and look for the Fall Ponds Photos (10-17, I believe), posted by Cliff_and_Joann. That lady (Joann seems to do all the posting) takes GREAT pictures and has some of the most beautiful ponds with some of the most beautiful koi I've ever seen... and she usually posts them fairly large. She doesn't deserve to have those "appropriated." No, Dianne. I won't leave (although they may kick me off with all I've been writing, lol). But I may be more selective with what I post and shy away from some of the more humorous or creative posts, or anything I think might look "attractive" to someone looking for something to "appropriate." And Marsha, I think your efforts on this front are admirable, so please don't think I was slamming you. I'm not really all that concerned about the cookies and partners and ads and so forth. I just don't like them laying claim to all our "intellectual property." By the way, it's not just me. I think all of YOU have a lot of "intellectual property" to protect, as well, even if you don't. Take care, Jeff

Hello Greg!!! You are correct it is "Cape Hatteras"...sorry about that...WE here in VB consider it to be so close and us locals call it "Hatteras" also called by locals as "Hatteras Village" it is the most southern point of the Island...the ferry to Ocracoke is nearly yards from where the picture was taken. So if you want to sound "local" LOL...call it Hatteras!!! AKA "HWY 12" It is one of the best places to take a vacation!!! Great Sun, surf and great fishing!!! That trip we caught many Bullnose Dolphin aka as Mahi Mahi...ahhhh makes me hungry thinking about them!!! They also have a great run on Tuna in the early part of the season...as well as White and Blue Marlin Wahoo too! Sorry to get off topic...just thinking about summer and how much i love deep sea fishing!!! How have you been Greg? I was up in your area yesterday (LGA) and had a wonderful time with all of those storms!!! What a day!!! How are all of your palms? I just brought in two of my Ponytails, and my big Agave...almost to close for comfort with the low temps...but they are alll fine. Now everything is inside for the winter...My hubby can't seem to adjust right yet...he seems to think that he's in a jungle!!! LOL...Then once springtime comes around, and I put them all outside...he says that the house looks bare!!! LOL...I really need a greenhouse..."Hope santa is listening" LOL Take care everyone!!! Great to hear from you Greg!!! (I am going to try and order one of those Ponderosa Lemons come spring" Still can't get over that size of that lemon... Laura in VB

Everything works fine until I hit the accept button, then the button goes grey and everything sits there with nothing happening until I exit the page and disregard the changes.

This says the top post was two years ago. The duck question was recent. Petalique, did you use an old thread with new words? Or is it something really screwy? I found the referenced thread. Different message. THIS IS A ZOMBIE POST.