I grew them for a few years but stopped because I was getting too many unnamed roses in my garden. It was a good way for J&P to get rid of left overs they didn't have enough of to offer in their catalog and plantings they decided not to offer for sale. Some did get early plants that eventually amounted to something. Those offered as test roses were already scheduled for eventual sale or the scrap heap.

I"m doing the test panel this year. They ran out of the bi-colored rose before they sent this far north so I'm getting a non-test surprise instead. I do have Jacelvet, Jacdrama, and Jacsammy and so far they seem to be waking up pretty uniformly, but barely waking up. I was a little disappointed since the one I was looking most forward to was the bi-color they're out of. Thanks for the heads up on "april in paris" it was a rose I had been contemplating on getting.

I would winter him over in, say a garage or shed, then plant in the spring.

Their customer service is horrible this year, too :( They were supposed to replace a rose I bought last spring, and I tried bugging them about it since last May, but their final verdict is a $10 credit. Great. What are the credit card policies on this sort of thing? If they send dogs, can I just have my cc company cancel the charges, you think? Surely bum product + bankruptcy would work to not have to accept another store credit if it's done quickly enough? ***Does anyone have any experience at all with Heavenly Dawn? That's who I'm considering using my credit on if I decide to actually use it.*** I was going to buy Heaven on Earth there now, too, but any J&P rose available elsewhere at all should be bought elsewhere, imho. (Unless your cc company is usually very great about bum companies, I suppose ;) Mine usually is.) Heavenly Dawn isn't some known rose, is it?