seysonn, that's a good point you make. If neutral distilled water won't make a noticeable difference compared with tap water, then the only problem I have is finding a reliable way to test for pH. I thought my cheapo test strips might be off by a little bit, but the vinegar test does show them to be worthless. So what is the liquid test kit you're referring to. What brand is it?. I've been looking at better quality test strips, ColorpHast is a good brand (used by my scientist friend) , and also Phinex (4.5-9 pH range). I'd like to find some with a range of 2-9 pH so I can use vinegar as a low end standard. ColorpHast makes that range, but seems to be out of it every time I check. And does it matter if a test kit is labelled for saliva and urine...is that just because of the range, and can any pH test kit/method be used to test a soil sample? Any opinions on favorite pH testing methods? I think I'll start a new thread to ask that questions, or has this been done many times already?

My kids' namesakes - and I am having a dickens of a time finding any of them here. So, I am seeking US source(s) of the above. Any information as to where I can find them stateside would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! ~Tiger

I am on the hunt for the same thing now! Did you ever find a winner?

Kt, I was looking at the ground and was thinking it was a road wondering through the trees. Didn't see any tire tracks. I think we have mostly Lodgepole pines here. Nice pic! Blue sky! but to dry for my mossy feet. Eric