I like Layout #2, but I like a window over the sink. I also think it's more important to have the prep space, between the sink and range, than between the fridge and sink. Just my two cents :)

i like 'em both. who works in the kitchen the most? I think they should get their choice - unless someone comes up with a good reason for one over the other.

why not all drawers on lower - other than sink and corner?

how much space are you losing to fillers?

I prefer #2. I am not sure why venting it is much more difficult, you should be able to transition to a 3x10 or 3x12 inch duct and squeeze it on top of the cabinets even if it means tweaking the filler and molding a bit.If you need to go out on that window wall.

I think I like #2!

Are you able to get frameless cabinets? I mean yeah it's only a few inches saved storage but you need it. An 18" DW is definitely the right choice (especially if the dishwasher refuses to use it--heh. We'll see how that goes!).

You need every inch of storage and a lazy susan under the sink just won't work. Better to put storage in that big corner space.

What? There is no question. 2 is both more functional and more attractive.

Compared to what you have now, you will be chasing your tail in tight circles like a very happy puppy.

100% number 2!

Number 2 - definitely!!

I'm a #2 person as well. Nice space to the left of the stove. Also, it seems in #1 that your face would be right into the cabinet bottom, whereas in #2... well a window! Seems right that way.

Lavender_lass, I, too, prefer the sink under the window but we were so motivated by the ease of venting the stove, there was no way to keep the sink on the same wall as the stove.

Desertsteph, hard to say who works in the kitchen more. I do 90% of the cooking, DH does 90% of the cleanup. Besides the sink and lazy susan corner, there is only the drawer stack already plus the 18 DW to the left of the sink and the 9 full height door to the right of the stove for the griddle, cookies sheets & jelly roll pan and cutting board. The filler to the right of the stove is 1 inch plus a fraction, the filler to the left of the fridge is 3 inches plus a very small fraction. The fridge requires a minimum 2 inches of clearance when placed next to the wall in the corner.

Palimpsest, you just gave me a wonderful idea. I NEVER thought about going behind the crown above the cabs, we were going to break through to the garage, do something with this very large antique mahogany cab that I use as my pantry on that wall and go out the side of the house. Up is not an option as it would be smack in the middle of the landing when you go up the attic steps (someday we hope to finish that off and add a bath if the kitchen or DH doesn't kill me first). I think I was under the false impression that the vent had to be a 6, 7 or 8 in ROUND. I will have to investigate this! Thank you!!

Fori, I too prefer #2. All of our pots and pans are kept in a 24 inch 1 door cab now which was fine with us and Layout #1 mimicked that same access but in a 30 inch 2 door cab and we just thought that was so much better but over the w/e, I saw a 36 lazy susan display and said we can do this instead! It did look very roomy.

Marcolo, thanks! I just think that with the DW to the left of the sink that will be so much better and easier to unload to the right for the drawer stack and dish cab and I will have more room to the side of the stove. Oh, I hope I'm a happy puppy!

Clueless & Buehl, thanks for your vote!

Deedles, I thought that too about #1 especially since I am tall. I guess it's one of those things that you really have to see and feel in person. We were going to go straight back initially but it would be impossible to access that cab above the sink in the corner and I just couldn't give up a cab.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH! It was nice knowing you as I am sure the KD will kill me when I go back to her this week and make her rework everything.

I am no layout expert, like others on this site. I do know something about what is visually pleasing, and I really like #2. I have one thought. A glass front on that upper corner cabinet that mimics your window stiles would be pretty.
Also, you might consider using only three drawers to the left of the stove instead of four. Each drawer would be a little deeper, which really ups the functionality of a drawer.
My DH could not understand why I was spending so much thought on the details of our new kitchen (not yet posted) until it was finished. Then he thanked me over and over for making it beautiful and functional.

Catlover, also agree, no question: #2. It is a very good layout that gives you a good stretch of counter to work at. It's a nice little kitchen I'd be happy to have myself.

In practice, I suspect your husband would be more happy with #2 too. That way, the entire sink counter can belong to cleanup.

Imagine working at a corner sink instead. He has two arms, two elbows swinging as he stands at that narrow sink-front counter. He's going to need use of the counter directly in front of his arm on the left, as well as the right. The left's the same counter you'll be working at, though, which is just barely adequate when it's empty. You're really, really going to want cleanup off that counter, nothing waiting to be washed or left on it after. Similarly, he's going to want any cooking prep you may have going on that counter pushed out of his way when he's in there. At least this is our experience working with the corner sink in our tiny vacation kitchen.

Now, the SINK. You guys can get a bigger one. A sink does not have to fit totally within the cabinet below but can be wider. That's what we did in our kitchen, and we are so grateful to the people who said we should. In our case, the middles of the top side edges of our sink cabinet were chiseled down to allow it to fit, plenty of support still provided by the front and back corners of that box and the boxes to each side. If you were gluing it to a stone counter, that'd be the same. Metal L-brackets could always be added to the cabinet, though, for belt-and-suspender security if desired. Would this void that part of a do-it-this-way-and-no-other cabinet warranty? Maybe, but many people do it anyway.

Our sink cabinet is 30" wide. We installed a 31" total dimension sink, which has a huge, to us, 29" inner dimension that holds anything and everything flat on the bottom. It's also 9 inches deep. My retired husband, who does our cleanup while I'm still working full time, loves it. It's also great for hiding stuff waiting for washing because of its depth.

Another vote for #2. I'm sure you'll survive the wrath of the KD. They do want your order, after all! Yea for the 501st redesign!

#2 is it. Layout finalized, cabs purchased. I did ask my husband if I should switch from the white to the sage color. He stabbed me with a fork, just kidding. Do what you want dear. I finally wore him down.

Thank you splitrock for your vote. I did look into getting one or two glass front doors and OMG the upcharge on the one cab alone was over $700. I think down the road, I could switch some of the doors out myself. And for the drawer stack, I was considering the 5DB but settled on the 4DB so I could have that larger 4th drawer. My husband complains that we have a lot of flatware, knives and gadgets so I think the 4DB will work well for our storage needs. As they say, it's all in the details. I am so glad your husband appreciates all of your hard work. Can't wait to see the pictures.

Rosie, thanks for taking the time set the scene for me and give me all of these great details about the sink installation. When I realized that the corner sink was a terrible mistake, I was just beside myself. While we had good countertop space, no one could get into the cabinets on either side. We actually took pictures of each standing at the corner sink in the store. Of course, I took the whole picture while DH was messing around and concentrating on how big my derriere looked at the "small" angle front. I have now something so much similar to what I set out for . . . sure there were still a lot of compromises but that's what life is all about, right? Thank you!

singingmicki, yes, I survived the meeting. The KD was very gracious and said she understood my concerns. I have my new layout and feel so much better. Thank you!

Now I guess onto Phase II - sink color, wall color, granite color, floor color. Any suggestions? :-)

Congrats, you two. Now the extra-fun stuff. What do you guys have in mind?

Hi Rosie and thanks! Trying to decide between the dove white or sage green painted cabs, either would be very nice and neither would be a mistake. If I did the white cabs, I would do a sage green paint. I don't know what wall color I would use with sage green cabs. I really like the sand color granites or quartz counters or a black walnut wood top in addition to loving the look of marble and think that would work with either color cab. If I did something like Cinnamon Sand (that I can spell, not Giallo Veneziano), I would do a dark silgranite sink. I really like, dare I say, the tumbled subway tile backsplash, again in a neutral sand color. If I did the white cabs, I was looking forward to getting an area rug that had some red in it. I love black wrought iron but am not sure how that would look with the sage cabs . . thinking a silver tone might work better! Finally for the floor, I love hardwood and my house has all the original 1940s hardwood except in the kitchen which has a neutral tile. I would try to match the wood and we are looking into radiant heat. DH prefers tile in the kitchen. We'll see! I think these are the fun decisions!