Yellowing alkyd isn't a problem if I'm using 'yellow' right??

16 years ago

Hi all,

I'm in the middle of a stressful and not-very-pleasant kitchen painting job. Eventually the kitchen will be BM Barley, a vintage looking, kind of drab pale yellow. I prefer working with oil (it is easier for me), so I think I'd like to use the BM Impervo in oil (I'm scared of the fast dry time on the waterborne). Since the kitchen will be yellow, will the 'yellowing' of the alkyd paint be noticeable? I've searched for a loooooooong time for just the right yellow, and I don't want it to change its color over time.

[And can I just complain: painting with wild, hyper, little boys in the house really is a pain in the arse! Especially when your primer has a 6-8 hour dry time. ]

Thanks for the advice!

Francy

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Faron79
16 years ago
Hi BAF!!
I wouldn't consider Oil...the house would REEK for a day-or-3.
With the Premium Latexes now, there's no good reason for Interior Alkyds.
Are ya painting Cabinets or walls in Oil??
Your color may change SOME over time.

We'll (ME I assuming...;-) ?!??!) be painting inside this later-summer/fall, and...big surprise...

...I'll be usin' good-'ol C2 Latexes.
(Oils aren't a part of my thought process)
We've still got some Oil gallons we can hardly GIVE-away at the store!

Faron
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Michael
16 years ago
A. Don't use the alkyd while the children are in the house.

B. Alkyd paints will harbor bacteria in a kitchen.

C. 100% Acrylic Latex will outperform the alkyd paint.

Michael
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paintguy22
16 years ago
The kind of yellowing that oil paint does over time is not the kind where the whole painted surface turns yellow either. It depends on how much sunlight hits areas so some areas will be yellow and some will not. And don't forget that oil paints are also brittle which is really the main reason I hate it. Seams, mitres, joints and everywhere you caulked will crack much sooner than if you used a nice flexible acrylic paint.
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bayareafrancy
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16 years ago
Bacteria? Brittle? Yikes!
Ok, ok, I guess you have convinced me.

Here is why I was planning on using oil, in backwards order of importance:

5. I actually like the smell of oil paint (bad, bad, bad, I know). And irrelevant in the long term. But I just kind of enjoy it. Mineral spirits too. Mmmmmm.

4. I've been using oil primer (BM Fresh Start) with my beloved Corona Chinex brushes. After cleaning, the still have residue from mineral spirits. Although a guy from Corona told me they should be ready-to-go in the latex after a washing with soap and water, I'm a bit hesitant to swich them to a different type of paint (thinking of oil and water not mixing, so to speak). So, I was sort of thinking that I've already committed my brushes to oil.

3. My 80 year old kitchen is harboring some really funky old smells. Not entirely sure why. When I sand the old wood (Douglas /fir), it releases some very unpleasant smells. Probably decades of cooking odors, cigarette smoke, and ancient adhesive from shelf paper (tho actually the whole house harbors these smells). I was thinking the oil would help cover/seal this better than acrylic.

2. I've read here that the BM alkyd Impervo is one of the best performing paints ever made.

But the number one REAL reason I was going to stick with the oil...

1. I'm just terrified of the difficulty and fast dry time with the BM waterborne Impervo. I'm a slow painter, and I'm constantly interrupted by my 2 little boys. I'm worried that it will look crummy.

On the other hand, it WOULD be nice to get all the (open) containers of mineral spirits off of the kitchen counter. That can't be too good for the food prep situation...

And then there is my unvented 1955 vintage stove with all the pilot lights going, and wisps of gas always escaping whenever the oven is turned on.

:-)

Francy
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Michael
16 years ago
Francy,

None of your reasons have merit. :)

It's best to switch to 100% acrylic latex.

Michael
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