Problem with my painter and FPE
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Disappointing info re FPE Eco paint after talk w/ Emmett
Comments (26)"Titanium dioxide. Waterbased vs oil based finish. Titanium dioxide is what makes white paint white. You can add titanium dioxide to the base up to a point. After you reach that point, the paint takes on the properties of titanium dioxide and ruins the paint. Almost all factory finishes are now waterborne; cars, furniture, ect...The main difference is the carrier. FPE waterborne paint is made with alkyd urethane base. So are some other brands that are equivalent. Another good base is acrylic urethane or acrylic copolymer. As far as the VOC is concerned, use a fan but waterborne is much lower than oil based." Yikes. Talk about confusing. All alkyds will indeed yellow. The type of oil used in the alkyd (safflower, corn, tung, etc) plays a part along with the type of solvent used. Both the presence ammonia (think bathroom) and/or absence of light will accelerate yellowing while bright light can reverse it (to a certain extent). Most alkyds do indeed dry harder than latexes but then again, they are not as scrubbable. The new water dispersible alkyds like Eco do offer a nice compromise between latex and oil but if yellowing is a concern because you will be painting cabinets white next to another white object (think appliance or tile), then a premium latex would indeed be your best choice. BTW, like most things, there is a rule of diminishing returns with TiO2. Up to a certain level, you do indeed get incremental hide but after a certain level, you are just wasting money. What this means is that FPE doesn't cost twice as much as other because it has twice as much TiO2 as other premium brands (never mind that its volume solids would need to be in the 70% range) - you need to look elsewhere to solve that puzzle. Keep in mind it's only the white/light base that has a high TiO2 load in any paint - TiO2 is pulled out of the other bases in order to hit the deeper colors....See MoreFPE surface preparation - sanding
Comments (14)Answers in order: 1. Yes, the cabinets will be painted before they are installed. My intention is to paint all sides before install. If my practice goes badly, or it turns out they must be sprayed, I will be painting. 2. At this time, the doors will be on and the drawers out. Is it better to have the doors off? 3. There is no other construction happening when I paint - too much dust and too much mess would ruin the finished product. 4. I read your recipe to use the kiddie pool and filters for the wet floor on a different painters discussion board and on the FPE site, so I will do that. I already have a pool that my grandsons use and fans. I'm uncertain about the furnace filter and filter charger - there will be a ductless mini-split system and whole house air filter that replaces the old floor furnace. 5. I have several 2x4s on which the drawers will rest while drying. I would use the same for the doors if I have to take them off, painting one side at a time. 6. I purchased the brushes recommended and sold on the FPE site. 7. My process will be: a. sanding, vacuuming, damp cloth, microfiber cloth b. FPE brushing putty with paint regular brush from Lowes c. light sanding and repeat of de-dusting process d. oil primer undercoat in white e. Hollandlac Satin - because it's the kitchen, I prefer an oil based paint. For my test on the chest of drawers I recently stripped, I ordered the smallest sizes which will be more than enough. Right now, I think it will take me about 2ish weeks to paint all of the cabinets, but we shall see once I practice a bit. I want to make as many mistakes and have as much trial and error during the practice. My kitchen cabinets will be unfinished maple and the piece I'm working with right now is ash, so pretty similar. Any suggestions, corrections, additional instructions, thoughts?...See MoreMy FPE 'Brown Cafe' is up!!!
Comments (2)The new puppy chewed up the camera. Sounds like you did a nice job....See MoreGlossy green front door FPE
Comments (41)"Unfortunately, in too many professions (including mine), there are a host of untrained, inexperienced people willing to work for very little, and they muddy the market and can make it very difficult for the seasoned pros to earn a decent living." People have to start somewhere, as in any field. Most people can't hire the best, so there is a large market for those who are less experienced. The real problem is the "host of untrained, inexperienced people" who charge us high, professional wages simply because they are in a certain field, so charge the going rate regardless of their skill or experience. That is not the job ladder where I come from. Around here, you will also find GC's (expensive!) that employ cheap untrained laborers. So you do not get what you pay for. Now, if you're talking about paying even more than what people already pay (outrageous), not many people make the kind of money they could afford them anyway. The average American family income is only about $50,000. The real problem is that the construction industry really needs to have educational requirements, certification and strict regulations in place to stop all the nonsense that goes on. It really chaps my hide to hear people say we don't, or are not willing to, pay enough. I've heard this plea for more money a number of times recently. And by the way, I know highly educated people who feel the same way about this and wonder why some of these clowns are making more than them....See MoreRelated Professionals
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