"because it is a locally restricted item"

Sounds like it may not meet the southern CA VOC standards...

Pete

From the Cabinet Coat MSDS, it has 1.1 lb/gal, or about 132 g/L of VOCs.
http://www.insl-x.com/downloads/Insl-x%20MSDS/CC-4510.pdf

I am not sure what the actual standard is right now, but see the following, which I think suggests 50 g/L is the limit for non-flat, non-high gloss paint.
http://www.icipaintsstores.com/web/docs/VOCNewsletter_2_en.pdf

Pete

Hey Fitz,
Checked our internal ACE-net info. at work today.

(virtually verbatim here...)From a FAQ data-sheet regarding the new "ACE Cabinet Door & Trim" paint":

"ACE Cabinet....is 50-state VOC-Legal...compliant in entire U.S., including California's SCAD (South-Coast Air-quality District)".

Someone wasn't quite adequately informed about this stuff where you ordered from!!
ACE designed this stuff to be VOC-legal EVERYWHERE at its introduction last fall.

Tell your local ACE to search on its ACE-net, using search-terms "ACE CAB" for the description. All the SKU#'s for Qt's. & Gallons will come up on their screen. They should be able to order it in.

Also...if you haven't seen this, I took some pictures of these products at our store, & posted them here on the "Primer Pics" thread this month. Shouldn't be too far down...!

Faron

Thank you both for your info-I'm going to do some more checking with our local Ace...

Well after making many calls all over California and checking on the Insl-x web site I have come to the conclusion that I can't buy Cabinet Coat. I spoke with a paint store that the Insl-x website said carry their products - they said they do carry some primers but are unable to get Cabinet Coat. They said they have had many calls within the last month and called Insl-x and found out this product can't be sold in California because of the restrictions. I also talked with one of the Ace Stores in a different county from mine and they said they can't order it either. So I guess I am out of luck unless I find it in Las Vegas and have a friend bring me some!

Now I'll have to go to plan B and use a Dunn Edwards or Sherwin Williams Urethane Acrylic Enamel

Any other suggestions?

If you can't get the CC...use SW Pro Classic.

Michael

Fitz,
I'm not sure that ACE-store knows what they're talking about!!!
The private ACE-net website says it's legal for the SCAD. They see the same info. I do!! Did'ja show-'em (print) the post of mine above?! They could also call the ACE paint plant(S) in Chicago. That store isn't tryin' hard enough IMO!

Cabinet-Coat is higher in VOC's, but not too bad...higher than your "SCAD" allows though!

I just saw the other day that CC is being offered by Amazon dot com. But at just over twice the price of what it goes for in my area. (It's good stuff but that price is ridiculous.)

If you can't get CC, have you checked the Ace Cabinet Paint that Faron mentions? I haven't compared it to CC yet because local Aces in my area don't have the new Ace Cab Paint...yet. But Faron is familiar with CC so can give you an opinion on how the two compare?

Michael, can the SW pro classic (Waterborne?) be tinted in dark colors like black or red? We have used Cabinet Coat on our built-ins and are very happy with the finish but want to paint some cabinets either red or black and can't get the Cabinet Coat in those colors.

Eureka....after many hours of searching I have finally found a paint store in Los Angeles that is ordering me Cabinet Coat! I called the corporate office of Insl-x and found out which of their accounts in L.A. could order the product and I was told Ace Hardware, True Value Hardware and Frazee. I had called Ace and True Value places and both categorically said no. Then I called one Frazee and they said no so I called another store and the girl there said that she would call their corporate special order department and get back to me. She did a few hours later and said she had a call into them, but maybe I could call the special order man myself and she gave me his number.
I called him today and had a lovely conversation with him, he was most helpful and said he would find out all the details and get back to me. He did and said no problem...he gave me a selling price and told me I would have to pay for the shipping from the warehouse in Reno-which I figured I would have to do.
I went directly over to the Frazee store and did my special order-hoepfully they will get right on it, and talk to whom they have to talk to place the special order, if not my contact at corporate said give him a call back and he will handle it!
I'm so excited...my diligence has panned out.

I want to thank ALL of you, especially Faron, for helping me - this web site/forum is the greatest.

Good for You Fitz!

Looks like I'll have to "bang some ACE heads" in Cali!!! Those idiots should KNOW this new ACE stuff is LEGAL there!!!
This really "chaps my hide"! As I mentioned, IT EVEN SAYS SO ON ACE'S OWN TECHNICAL WEBSITE!!! ...Makes ACE look bad...arrggh!

Soooo...You're able to obtain CC, which is "technically illegal" in Cali., BUT....no one was able to get you the "VOC-legal" ACE version...Oy!
* If you want, Fitz, email me & let me know what ACE store(s) you dealt with.
* Jeeeeezz...I've even posted the ACE Sku#'s for this stuff on this forum!!
* Relative to other ACE stores...I feel like I'm beatin' my head against the wall!

Faron

WAHOO----I got my Cabinet Coat Paint yesterday! Frazee finally called that the 4 qts. I had ordered was in, had to wait till it was approved by the director and the special ordering department, and then is was shipped from the Insl-x warehouse in Reno.

So now I get to try it and have some fun. We won't be ready to paint the cabinets for a while till all the work in the kitchen is done.

Thanks, Faron, for all your help. It pays to be persistant, like I always say where there is a will there is a way.

I went through the same thing last year. I couldn't find a dealer in the Inland Empire. I found Colorama in San Diego. They had it in stock. I was told it is restricted in Riverside County but not San Diego County. Made no sense.