water based vs oil based hardwood floor refinishing?
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Comments (6)Oil based soap (like Murphy's) is a super no-no. You then added a polish. Again another no-no. You need to STRIP (chemically and mechanically) the floors of the soap and the polish. Rubbing Alcohol works wonders. Try a test patch. Work in a well ventilated area. Get on hands and knees with the alcohol and a putty knife as your scraper. You will do this for the entire floor. And hopefully you will never need to refinish these floors. Those two products you have applied have drastically reduced your ability to do a full sand and refinish or even a buff and coat later in life....See MoreMedium brown hardwood stain with oil based poly?
Comments (12)Oil poly = orange. Not even yellow but ORANGE. If you are confident you will NOT be upset by orange floors (regardless of colour underneath) then go for the oil. Your 'pro' is trying to sell you on oil based because it is CHEAPER and EASIER to purchase/work with. Both help HIM/HER rather than you. So...now the question: have you seen the stain patches WITH THE FINISH on top? Always always always view the stain patches with a coat of the finish over top. Always. If not, you are picking blind. We have HUNDREDS of threads on houzz, "Help! I hate my floors! Why are they orange?" Happens on a DAILY basis. And remember: oil based poly = STINKS FOR 30 DAYS! Yah. As in migraines and nose bleeds type of smell. As someone who has migraines AND asthma I can tell you it is a B!TCH to be around newly finished oil poly floors. If you compare the costs of the Bona System (can be triple the material costs) to staying in a hotel/motel for another 3 weeks, you will find the Bona is a better (financial) choice. I personally like to see stain + 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD. It is DEATHLY important to state in the CONTRACT (yep...please write one): Floors to be Finished with 3 Coats of Bona Traffic HD (the HD is SUPER IMPORTANT). Do not let the 'guy' switch out Bona Traffic HD for Bona Mega. Bona is the company...Traffic HD is the LINE! You want the BIG BOY being used and you want 3 coats for 20+ years of worry free floors. Anyone who tries to sell you on oil based poly being tougher than water based is NOT trained to use the big boys. They are the guys who purchase their products from Home Depot and then claim it isn't as good as oil based. That's the level you are working with if they 'sell' the oil based....See MoreHas anyone stained hardwood with floors with water based stain?
Comments (11)There's a reason why you can't find much information on this. It's probably a bad idea. You should expect some unevenness and lapping on the stain. Wood will only absorb so much oil based stain. The depth of color is controlled by how much stain can penetrate and any excess is wiped off. In my experience, water based stains don't have the same limit and are almost certain to have imperfections. It soaks in quickly and applying more over the top generally makes it darker. The most successful one we did involved taping off runs so that it could be applied and worked from both sides, like a piece of furniture, trim, cabinet or door. Then we applied two coats of urethane, masked off the stained portion and stained and urethaned the remaining strips. Then we pulled all the tape and applied one last coat of finish. Here's the Varathane product page which doesn't mention floors. https://www.varathanemasters.com/en/products/water-based-stain "Great for furniture, cabinets, doors, trim and more" And it says it's sold only in quarts. It's easy to make a sample look good but much harder when you must do multiple runs and longer runs. If you're going to allow an attempt to do this, choose a separate room to do first. so the whole thing won't have to be done if/when it doesn't work....See Moreoil vs water based poly for refinishing wood floors?
Comments (5)The 2part water based products in the middle to high-end range (more than $130/gallon) will out perform your every-day oil based finish. To get the toughest finish for your budget, I like to see 3 coats of whatever you are working with. The two-coat system often requires a 'buff and recoat' by year 15 (some people need it done by year 11 or 12). If you go with the three coat system RIGHT AWAY then you can skip this step in the future. The benefits to water based: They are clear and colourless and do NOT turn yellow. They have a very fast 'cure time' of 7-10 days. They are (normally) low odour which is a great benefit to those of us who have chemical sensitivities, asthma, COPD, migraines, history of nose bleeds, etc. The down side to OIL based: They turn orange rather quickly (within a few months) and they get darker and darker as they age. They take a LONG time to cure (full hardness = full toughness) like 30+ days. The ODOUR is one of the greatest drawbacks to oil based. For some, they can 'handle' living on the same level of the floors within 2 weeks. Whereas others (I'm included) cannot live in any part of the house until 4 weeks has passed....See MoreRelated Professionals
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