I'll not try Cl. Mme. Caroline Testout right now then,... I'm a beginner, and I think having stiff canes and big thorns on something I'm trying to train over an arbor (or even a wall) would be hard for me. If I get her, I'll try the bush form and just let it be a bush. Melissa, thanks for more info about training Crepuscule! that sounds pretty good! considering that I'm using pinks and hot pinks... would Crepuscule match ok...? The pictures I see online vary a lot. Sometimes it looks light yellow, sometimes peachy. Or would Cl. Lady Hillingdon be better for #4? I've heard people describe that one as being kindof a glowy light yellow, so that could be really nice with the other colors. I suppose I'm leaning away from using a pink climber in the #4 position since I'll have a pink climber on the front porch and a pink sakura tree (though that only blooms spring). I love sages and such, and I'm definitely going to use some sages and lavendars in the front with cl Eden (and I'm guessing I'll use Duchess de Brabrant under Eden) If I have room, maybe I can use some in the back, too? Right now I'm a little unclear on how much space there is. It's hard for me to imagine the size of the final roses and whether they'll tolerate some purple and/or yellow flowers growing with them...! a lot of people have had purple clematis growing along with their roses, but I think in this sunny spot that probably wouldnt' work. I'm lucky in that my neighbors have not done -anything- to their yard yet. There's nothing there but dirt. So I guess I can hope that they won't put a tree there? (or send them a plate of cookies with a request? haa...) As of yet, I don't have any neighbors on the south side at all. #9, I think, in the afternoon is getting shaded by the house. so probably not super scorcher? It sounds like based on what you guys said that I could probably use a Hybrid Musk,... sometimes you probably just have to try things, right?

Folks, I saved the good seeds!! These are ones that I have had for 5 years, ya know the junk stuff. I sent off some years back a truck load of Datura seeds to a college guy and I'm sure he about fainted when they arrived. I keep a 25 gallon container of seeds that we collect from the yard or others. DH is to the point no more seed keeping when he saw all that went out! But again he sure doesn't want me to plant them all back in the yard either!!

With photobucket, you are right, if you move them you break the link, and of course deleting them, but I don't think by adding pic to an album will break a link because I add pic to my album all the time and it is still OK. But I know when I tried to move my pic to a Sub-Album within the Photobucket it warns about breaking original links. As far as GW goes, since this is a slower moving forum, the pages last longer, you will see old Posts disappear very quickly off the Main Decorating forum, the server only seems to "hold/store" posts for so long in that Section... I can still do a search on my name and find my pictures from last year, whereas in the main decorating forum, my stuff is long gone.

The nails will go through the paneling, you just need to pound harder and/or maybe for longer. They go through easier if you are actually on a stud :) We live in a mobile home that's about 20 years old, with wallboard but I know what you're talking about. The other solution is if the item is heavier, buy the wall anchors for hollow walls. You drill a hole the size of the anchor, tap the anchor in and screw a screw into the anchor. Whatever you hang on the wall will stay without the nail sagging and dropping it to the floor.