Just to clarify...You are talking about the crown on the shorter cabinets which will end at your angled cabinet, right?

I can't find any photos (and I have never touched a miter saw!), but I have seen it installed where the crown goes almost all the way to the angled cabinet and then they cut another small piece of crown to make it turn in toward the face of the shorter cabinet. I hope that makes sense. So, the crown does not dead-end at that angled cabinet; It hangs a left and ends at the shorter cabinet. This gives you enough space to open the angled cabinet door.

We have a similar cabinet set up but we increased the depth of the angled cabinet by 3 inches so we could end the crown there.

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We had a similar problem in this one corner. The cabinet guy was worried that opening up the corner one would bang into any protruding crown. He came up with putting a smaller crown on the lower cabinet. I don't have a close up of it nor am I at the house right now. But if you need a closier one, I can get it tomorrow.

Thanks - I didn't think of increasing the depth (not sure it was even an option) when I ordered the cabinets, though builder knew I wanted to (eventually) put crown since I had him price out the moulding from Merillat. The modular factory wouldn't install crown, so I just said don't order it to have it shipped loose - I'll buy it later.

A returned end would still stick out the same as the crown, so what I'm looking for is ideas of how large a crown I can get (and cousin who's a carpenter just stopped by to pick up tools he left here, said not all crown is 45* so that blows my calculations out of the water, to make matters worse catalogs don't always list the projection), or if I should use a flatter moulding. Cousin suggested bed molding. Not sure if we should do crown on the 2 high spots and bed on the others, do bed on everything, or do crown everywhere but this 4ft run on this hinge side of the corner? Or is is possible to pull the corner cabinet out, only taking out cabinet to the right of it (not shown) and then shim it out so it projects in front of the 12" deep cabinets to either side?

Help! PLEASE!

I wanted crown very much but did not plan my cabinets out very well. So my cabinet guy came up with a solution that worked for me. He put a spacer in between the two cabinets so the crown on the lower cabinet would have a place to return to.

You can just barely see it in these pictures. The other side of the kitchen didn't have this problem since the taller cabinet in the center was set out 3" from the wall for the range hood.

ajsmama
I don't think mine will be much help. My corner cab was made at a different depth so the crown of the lower side cabs could die into the sides of it.

Thanks - everybody has such beautiful kitchens! We did the upgrade with FE dovetailed drawers and plywood bottoms, but builder only offered Merillat (we chose "Deluxe" but they're not highend by any means). And I only had a week to design the kitchen (a week for the whole house floorplan and wiring, another week for kitchen cabinet layout) to get a $7000 discount on the house, it wasn't enough time to think of details like this. Sometimes I think I'm trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Hopefully justmeinsd will come through with something I can use or someone else will - keep the pics coming! Or does anybody have an idea how hard it would be to pull that corner cabinet forward?

Thanks everybody!

ajsmama...I just had to find a photo online of what I was talking about bc I don't think I explained it well enough. The return does not make a full 90-degree turn, so you are still able to open all the doors. However, you have to have a matching piece of wood blocking behind the crown.

See the link below for a photo, but here is the description I cut from the website:

"Here's another option that allows you to keep the cabinet at the same depth. These guys put a piece of stained blocking behind the return on the crown to cover up the hole left as the crown tapers back. In my opinion that would look better with a 3" wide stile that extended above the rail. That would catch the crown and move the bottom of the return out past the edge of the door."

Maybe this will work for you?

Here is a link that might be useful: Photo about 1/3 of the page down

Another photo at the bottom of the page with an explanation of how the carpenter did it...

Here is a link that might be useful: photo at the bottom

Thank you! If the crown didn't project really far we could squeeze this in - it's only 1 or 2 spots (do on hinge side only or both sides of corner cabinet)! We were thinking if doing spacer/backer anyway.

Another idea I had was to actually recess the crown behind the face frame, like by using a plywood backer attached to the back of the (3/4" thick) face frame, would gain us 3/4" in projection, then could fill the space between the top of the cabinet and bottom of the crown with 3/4" (1x) oak stock, apply thin molding (1/2 round?) to seam at top of frame?

Merimom
Is that your kitchen layout?? If so, what is the size of the kitchen. I am looking for ideas to re-do my U-shaped kitchen....I like the looks of this. Can you post photos of this?? Thanks

ccoombs,
If you don't mind me asking, how big is your pantry? I was actually looking at that exact pantry door online, so your kitchen just jumped out at me. Not sure of the pantry size in the houseplan I like, but I do know there is one...YIPPEEE!!!

Thanks!

Here are the pictures I promised.

It starts with a little flater smaller crown

Then notice that only the top of the smaller crown meets the other cabinet.

Hope this helps

Thanks justmeinsd - it looks a lot like the links that merimom provided. not only is it smaller (though you can't really tell), it's got a backer behind it and returns just short of the other cabinet. I think some combination of backer (recessed and trimmed under?) and returning before the corner, maybe using crown in same profile but next size down, could work. I will show the links and your pics to my carpenter and see what he can do. Worse comes to worst, we'll use bed molding like he suggested. Now I just have to find moldings and order stain!

Thanks everybody for your help - I'll post pics when it's done (though we have other projects going on so it may be a while).

ajamama, Glad you are getting some ideas here. I'm sure your carpenter can come up with something that works for you. Question - Why aren't you getting your molding from Merrilat? I also think you can order the matching stain from their website...Or least you could last time I checked about a yr ago (We considered Merrilat cabinets but went with Kraftmaid bc I like a particular door style better...Same company though).

angelcute...That is my layout, but to see my kitchen you'd have to look in my garage bc all the cabinets are still in boxes! That's what DIY combined with a 3 yr old and a 7 mo old will do to ya! My kitchen is roughly 11x12. I still wonder if we should have moved the micro to the upper cabinet to the right of the frig and did a "real" hood, but I bought the cabs before I found this great website and everything is already bought and paid for...oh well...Sorry to hijack, ajsmama. Good luck!

Sorry to hijack, just wanted to offer some help re: your U shaped kitchen. My layout is almost exactly like Merimom's. Here's a link if you're interested:

Here is a link that might be useful: Finished Kitchen and Layout

Just found Angelcut's thread about her U kitchen and posted there. Please forgive me! Ignore my post above!

Barb

No problem hijacking - I do it all the time ;-)

I am getting the stain from Merillat (just have to get dealer, can't order a quart directly off their website). I had had builder price the CM from Merillat but it wasn't solid oak and modular factory (and builder/modular dealer) wouldn't install it, so we decided to just buy real oak CM later. I recessed and dropped the center of my island (used a bath vanity - still can't get Merillat to tell me if I can order extra drawers for false fronts where sinks would go), had cousin (carpenter) cut oak 1x4 to trim out exposed sides of taller end cabinets, so I have to stain those pieces anyway, just figured I'd buy the CM and stain it, have him put it up all at once.

Oh, and I checked the Merillat website for deeper corner cabinet - they do have on, but it's 3" wider as well and wouldn't fit (or would push fridge right up against mudroom door). That must be why I ordered the 24" x 12" one - never thought of the crown sticking out though. Cousin doesn't think using crown on uppers and bed molding on this one 4ft section will look good, but I'll see about finding smaller crown (do it on the other side of the corner cabinet too, then the only ? is whether to use larger or smaller on the cabinets on the other side of the kitchen that are the same height as the lower ones in these pics. What do you think, just use the large crown (and go all the way to the ceiling) on the 2 high spots, the corner and the fridge, and use the smaller crown on all of the lower cabinets that will be 6" from ceiling?