Has Miele discontinued vented dryers???
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Miele T9802 Dryer checked out OK with Miele
Comments (22)Besides from the Normal (moisture sensing) cycle not working on a 100% synthetic load of gym clothes....Every other load (shirts, pants, shorts, towels, sheets, table cloths, napkins, jackets, etc...) come out flawlessly using Normal (moisture sensing). Does it annoy me that I have to use 45 Min Warm + gentle to dry synthetics? Yeah, a little. But, I think it is similar to the Miele washing machine quirks...Pre-Wash is labeled Heavy Wash, No soak option, after a cycle is complete, the drum does not tumble to "un-stick" clothes that are literally plastered to the stainless drum after a 1400rpm spin cycle, Cannot activate the drum light during a cycle, etc. etc.. My washer and dryer though, IMO, perform better than ANY OTHER make or model. As we know, or should know!!!, nothing is perfect. If Miele hadn't sent a Technician out, I would be very worried and upset, but since I was with the Tech the entire time during service...everything checked out. If this is a specific "problem/issue" with my T9802...then I'm just gonna have to deal with it, because I love this dryer!!! ;)...See MoreLong Duct Run for Vented Dryer vs. Condenser Dryer
Comments (20)gordonr, If there's nothing else I've learned during the course of my renovations, I've learned that everything ends up being more complicated than you expect. Once you open up the ceiling or the wall, there always seems to be something in the way of what you want to do. A floor joist where the tub drain needed to be, pipes where I wanted recessed lights to go, and now the recessed light over the tub is where it would make sense to run the duct. I can hardly wait to get to the kitchen renovation! I spoke with a rep in Miele's technical service group yesterday. Initially he was telling me he thought what I wanted to do entailed too long a stretch of duct - that it would reduce the performance of the dryer. I told him I expected that it would not be optimal performance, but what I was trying to determine was whether it would reduce it to the extent that a condenser dryer would have the same performance. He didn't seem to understand what I was getting at, so I gave an example: If the vented model has 15% better performance than the condenser model and the venting I'm doing reduces performance by 15%, then the condenser model would be generally equivalent, but if the vented dryer's performance is 50% greater, the same 15% reduction in performance would still mean the vented dryer was a better choice. I asked if he could give me any information about how much better the vented dryer's performance was than the condenser model and how much the venting I was considering would reduce the vented dryer's performance. At that point, he said he wanted to talk with one of the senior technical reps and put me on hold. When he came back, he told me that the dryer was rated for up to 60 feet (which I already knew) and that I should be fine with what I was planning on doing. He also told me that the sr. rep had indicated that having a condenser dryer in a closet could be problematic because it puts off a lot more heat than a vented dryer - you'd need a lot more air circulation into the closet with a condenser dryer. The closet I'll be putting the w/d into is 68" wide by 29" deep, so the extra heat and air circulation need may not have been as much of an issue for me as it might be for others with a more confined space. One learning that I took away from this: if you start to get the sense that the technical or customer service person you're talking to may not be as knowledgeable as you'd like, ask to talk with a senior rep. Like anywhere else, initial phone calls will be answered by more junior staff who will route the more complicated issues to more experienced staff. I've decided to go with a vented dryer, and now just need to decide between the Miele and the Asko. I'll let everyone know which one I end up with. Jan...See More24" Miele Dryer -- vented or condenser?
Comments (12)It seems that all of Europe is moving away from vented dryers because they use more energy than modern heat-pump dryers. I was just trying to give a reason why Miele might have done away with offering condenser dryers in the US. I maybe should have said "It seems that all of Europe is moving away from vented dryers and traditional condenser dryers because they use more energy than modern heat-pump dryers." What you have heard about longer drying times, more heat output, higher energy usage etc. is true for all condenser dryers. Yes, "traditional" condenser dryers do use more energy... in comparison to the alternative the OP had in mind, which was a vented dryer. Seen as a whole, vented dryers get the worst energy efficiency rating according to the European Energy Label, though. Vented Dryer - C Rating Condenser Dryer - B rating Heat-Pump Dryer - up to A+++ Rating I will say that the system is a little biased because condenser dryers do blow a lot of hot, dry air into the room, which helps them to be seen as more energy efficient, while vented dryers suck heated air out of the house, which, in turn, increases heating costs for the home owner. Alex...See MoreMiele W4842 After Discontinuation
Comments (6)sparky823 -- I do carefully separate the sheets before loading the dryer - I could try the fold pattern, chloe45 thanks for your feedback glad to know I'm not the only one with the balling up sheets. It might be faster to do one sheet at a time like you are doing rather than my two at a time and unwind/redry repeat. And you are right there is no perfect machine - I am starting to lean toward keeping them but I will need to invest in pedestals to keep them in my new layout and put off the new machines a few more years. I really wanted to Miele since I was very happy with my old one but with the discontinuation of the large machines I might just keep my Bosch especially as I am also doing some new appliances in a minor kitchen remodel and those or more permanent decisions --- I'll just be sure my space has a bit of extra room. I looked at the Electrolux today -- the doors didn't open for me the first few times I tried them. Better after that. But real problem is that washer door is either open all the way or closed -- you cannot leave it open an inch or two which is how I like to leave mine between uses....See Moreenduring
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