Incidentally, these are equal to about a 100 watt incandescent light bulb, but use 23 watts, as you probably already know regarding cfls. Thanks, Bob

Energy efficient CFL R30s are available. However, they are not dimmable. Don't expect LED pricing to drop to the

Davidtay, I intend to go with 6" cans as I feel they give off more light so I would need PAR38 or BR40 bulbs UNLESS I go with smaller cans. 625 lumen's is not enough for me. I would like the lumen's to be over 800 and preferably 900 if possible per bulb. I also like the 3,000K color temperature. I will not swap out the bulbs right away and will use the bulbs until they are not giving great light. The bulbs in my kitchen are the Reveal Halogens at I think at 950 lumen's each that have been there now for 1.5 years and have not died yet as I am not in the kitchen that long and usually eat at my home office desk as I catch up with emails. But when they start to need to be replaced, I will go with LED. I wish the CREE retrofit kits would be less than $100 for the lumens and color temperature that I want.

Thank you wws944 and davidtay for your help and educating me as I am just learning about bulbs and has light affects colors in the room. Another electrician was here tonight who I felt had a lot of knowledge and will email me a quote for six recessed 6" cans, update can under the sink to accept more bulbs (no spring in it) and new trim. He told me we can play with bulbs to see what you like. He will also let me know how much it will cost to install a fixture in the dining room. He said the cans had springs in them to accept various size bulbs with long or short necks. The other electrician that left the PAR40 bulb with a good price did not let me know if the cans had springs to accept various size bulbs. He just told me if I did not like the bulb to buy my own bulb. He was going to give me a new free can under my sink and install the fixture in the dining room for free since it is a matter of switching fixtures and no new holes. But I don't want an outdated can without springs. What questions do I ask him? I wonder if all cans are similar? I have a 21 year old canned recess light under my sink that had fit an incandescednt bulb that the other electrician put the PAR40 Halogen bulb in it and it is not long enough but still fits the socket and it was not as nice as the non -glaring ecosmart 3,000 75 watt PAR38 LED (despite being only 85 CRI, I seem to like the nice white color that is bright and happy without any glare and not harsh like the fluorescent 6500K linear bulbs I now have in my ceiling fixture that I will be replacing with recessed can lighting. I seem to like this 850 lumens LED bulb that the new electrician put in for me since I had it in a small lamp with the shade off as I had been trying out different bulbs. I can't find where it says what flood with the light is. The new electrician liked this too and liked the specs of some halogen bulbs I showed him that were PAR38 and PAR30 Edison bulbs with wide spread floods. The ecosmart LED soft white floor reflector blanco suave65 watt equivalent bulb with only 575 lumens and says CREE True White Technology with 2700K light spectrum is not bright enough for me and I like the 3,000 light better despite this 65 watt LED coming with white trim as part of the bulb and 92 CRI which is higher than 85 CRI. My tiles are not as pretty under this light and I prefer a 75 watt equivalent light. Any other LED ideas that are flood that have 3,000K light spectrum with around 850 lumens or more that is 75 watts that will include the trim as part of the bulb? I think I prefer to go with the cooler LED bulb but would like to see how the two favorite (recommended by some posters on the Garden Web Forums) GE wide flood PAR38 and PAR30 halogens look with my tiles and in the room