small NYC kitchen in need of something... does it exist?

16 years ago

My brother and sister in law recently bought an apt. in a coop building and are renovating the kitchen before they move in.

The had planned to do a cooktop with an electric wall oven, but just found out that the coop does not allow electric wall ovens because it requires too much ampage or something along those lines.

So, she figures she'll go with a gas wall oven which means it will have to go directly under the gas cooktop. apparently if they want to move a gas line it requires permitting, etc etc... they don't want to get into this. they need to keep things moving quickly and fairly economical.

Here is the problem: they haven't found a gas wall oven that doesn't require a minimum of 14" of clearance below it.

does this sound right? does anyone know of one that will work for them?

They have to order their cabinets by Wednesday so all of this has to sort itself out rather quickly.

THANKS so much.. will xpost on appliances.

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malhgold
16 years ago
wouldn't it just be easier to get a gas range? I'm assuming there's a reason they'd prefer not to.
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harriethomeowner
16 years ago
We have a tiny gas range in our co-op kitchen:

I think it's the same brand/model as the one in the link (it was in the apartment when we bought it). (We don't live there, btw, so I don't know how it is to use. The kitchen is so small that I don't know if much cooking goes on there.)

Here is a link that might be useful: Avanti range
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modern life interiors
16 years ago
tell your brother and sister in law to get a free estimate from a licensed electrician. you have to determine how much power you have.

next step get the spec sheets from any appliances you are interested in.

yes you can upgrade your electricity with a lisenced electrician even in a ny coop.

check everything out before you go to the board for approval of the renovation.

get your ducks in a row first.

believe me i know i live in a condo in nyc.
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giacomo_it
16 years ago
I know is hard NY and the coop building.
I designed many kitchen and its hard, very hard and expensive bring also more power for electric oven (that required 220)
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mamadadapaige
Original Author
16 years ago
thanks for the responses. yes, there is a reason they don't want a range... that would certainly be a more straight forward route and probably what they will have to do, but before she gives up on her vision I am trying to help her to see if what she wants exists.

they are doing this a little under the gun and have to get it done sort of quick thus they really don't want to have to apply for special permits or go through board approval for non-"kosher" stuff.

They bought this place to get my nephew, their son, into a decent public kindergarten on the East Side and they were under a lot of pressure to find a place quickly. While it is a nice apartment, they won't be there forever and have resale on their minds so don't want to sink a ton of money into it.

there is very little counterspace and my sister in law finds ranges sort of "clunky". She feels that with a cooktop you will at least visually have a continuous countertop which will give the illusion of more space.

Again, she may have to give up on this but i feel she has given this a lot of thought and has good ideas and just want to help her either find what she wants or cross this off of her list as a complete non-option and move on the plan B.

Thanks again. If you have any other thoughts, we are all ears!
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emfny
16 years ago
When I first started planning my NYC co-op kitchen remodel, I was told by a number of appliance dealers and design/build firms as well as the co-op that the NYC building code does not permit a gas oven to be installed under a countertop range. Reluctantly, I went with a regular range with oven.
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mamadadapaige
Original Author
16 years ago
an update: she has given in the coop board and will go with a gas range. I figured that would be the ultimate solution but I also thought there might be an unexpected answer as well.

thanks so much!
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