Miele dishwasher airgap removal question in California
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Comments (11)fauguy - Yes I keep reading that the cheese & starch option isn't noticeably better and noticeably is noticeably you know? Frankly, what turned me off even more than the price difference was the less-intuitive control panel of the fully integrated model. On the Optima - which was my second choice but is becoming my first choice - you can see each of the 6 cycle options on top (they each have their own buttons or something easy like that) and that is mighty preferable to me. Also because my mom and other family members/friends may occasionally go to turn on the machine and get all flustered by having to use a menu. Another factor is that when I talked to the Miele people - just like you said - they seemed to think the La Perla was kinda sorta ridiculous. That's so funny! I love that; it's so refreshing. They also explained to me the Rinse & Hold option which I hadn't read closely enough before. I like that you can put messy dishes in and press that button but not have to fill the whole machine up (that it just essentially soaks them). That process will probably ensure that on the pots and pans setting, all will come out clean if they wouldn't have otherwise. What's funny is that if it weren't for the menu on the control panel, I would have been willing to spend the $500 extra - also cause I like the way the door opens on its own to help dishes dry more quickly (and for better racks). But I'm glad not to have to spend it, too. :) dcwesley - as I said above, I think the Optima is the one we'll go for. Thanks for sharing your experience w/ it. I wish you had a better experience w/ the racks but hopefully someday they'll improve them for all of us and we can upgrade the racks at that time (?). I'm having a hard time deciding which would be better to plumb to - hot or cold water. I guess cold water makes more sense when you have a larger family (5 in our case) who are likely to take more showers and likely to run out of hot water too often if a dishwasher's added to the mix (remember - we haven't had a dishwasher since 1995)! I don't like that it will take longer but then I wonder exactly how much longer it takes to get that cold water heated up enough, you know? And here's another good question: if I'll be using the Rinse & Hold option quite often, does that mean dishes will be rinsed in cold water each time? Or does it mean the machine has to heat up that water each and every time we hit the rinse & hold button (which would be often)? It seems it would be a bigger waste of electricity. Would love to get a better sense of the pros & cons you know? Thanks!!...See MoreQuestions RE: Miele, Bosch & KA dishwashers
Comments (25)Diamante Plus installed yesterday and I must say I am impressed, at least initially. Dishes were spotless with all default settings. A couple of questions at this time. With the hidden controls, do you actually have to power off the dishwasher, or will it turn off after a certain period of time? The installer suggested we try it without adding an water softener salt initally. Our water hardness is 10pbm, so not all that bad, but enough to not make our glasses perfect. Also, the installer did not install the heatshield. My husband told him that eventually we will be replacing our cabinetry & formica countertops but I am wondering if that was a mistake given we don't quite know when we will be doing the renovation. We know if do want to do one in the future though. I was so impressed with how quiet it is. It trumps the builder grade GE that we just got rid of by a mile!...See MoreMiele Inspira Dishwasher even in California-no airgap?
Comments (24)So David, what's your point? I don't believe anyone has ever claimed that any dishwasher requires an air gap. All dishwashers will function just fine without one. The point was, that there are some local or municipal plumbing codes that require an air gap if there is a place in the kitchen for a dishwasher installation. The plumbing code requirement has nothing whatever to do with any mechanical requirement of a particular brand or model of dishwasher. There is not, however, any prohibition against bypassing the air gap. You simply need to have an air gap in place to pass the plumbing inspection, which in most cases is done before any appliances are installed anyway. After the final inspection, if you're installing a dishwasher with a built-in anti-siphon device, you can rest assured that bypassing the air gap poses no increased risk that water from your house drain lines could be siphoned into the dishwasher. On the other hand, if in the absence of a built-in anti-siphon device you want the same protection, you'll need an air gap. A high loop does not afford the same level of assurance against siphoning. Plunging a clogged drain with a dishwasher drain line attached, could result in water being forced into the dishwasher. Only an air gap or a built-in anti-siphon device would prevent that. A high loop won't do it. In and of itself, back-flow into the dishwasher from your house drain lines isn't the end of the world, and certainly poses no threat to public health and safety. It could be a bit yucky, though. No one relishes the thought of contaminated drain water coming into contact with their dishwasher interior. Beyond that, if enough water were forced into the dishwasher by plunging, it could result in an overflow, potentially leading to some flood damage....See MoreMore miele dishwasher questions
Comments (17)I had planned to get the Dimension but when the Lumen came out I went with that model. Same price as the old Dimension with some additional features. The Dimension dropped in price and lost a couple of features. I am very pleased with my selection. Quiet, Cleans great. I agree that the baskets are well constructed and fold down/reconfigure easily. I also agree the filter is very easy to remove for cleaning - the wash arms move freely out of the way....See Morewatermelonprincess
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