Sounds higher than it needs to be. Get another quote or two for comparison. Not bad equipment, though. Also you'll want the coil model number in writing.

Thanks for your response. I have gotten other quotes from good dealers, but I am leaning towards this set of equipment. Do you have a sense of what would be reasonable to pay for these items?

You mentioned getting the coil model # in writing. That's new to me...could you tell me a bit more about that?

Thanks Ryan! Jon

The equipment is nice and not a problem. I would expect more in the $8-9k range... not near $10k. The coil sits above the furnace and is used for air conditioning. Model number would begin with 4TXC.

Thanks for your response. I have gotten other quotes from good dealers, but I am leaning towards this set of equipment. Do you have a sense of what would be reasonable to pay for these items?

You mentioned getting the coil model # in writing. That's new to me...could you tell me a bit more about that?

Thanks Ryan! Jon

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Jon,

The reason the coil model number is important is because it is a determining factor in whether or not the system has good efficiencies and capacities or lesser ones. The coil plays a role in determining your SEER rating, for example. It's also good to know everything you're getting up front to prevent any surprises. Are there any comparable equipment setups from other manufacturers that you're comparing and would like input on? Lastly, regarding the thermostat, it is important that you get a good one that can control 2-stage heating. I would recommend one of Trane's touchscreen thermostats or better yet the VisionPRO IAQ YTH9421 from Honeywell, which can slow the variable-speed blower down for better dehumidification "on demand."

Ryan,

The other furnace/AC combo I was considering from this company included the Lennox G61MPV (90,000 BTU) and the Lennox XC13-036 Air Conditioner (3 Ton).

I received quotes from other companies including an Amana and Rheem systems. I am starting to reconsider those other quotes given how high the Trane/Lennox quotes seem to be...

Thanks for your help Ryan!

Jon

Rheem makes good equipment, especially their modulating furnace when paired with the proper thermostat. I wouldn't have a problem with the Lennox setup either. Ultimately it's the installation that makes the difference. Brand matters, but not as much as a quality installation. Did they size your equipment by a heat load/loss analysis (known as Manual J in the field)? Or did they go by your old size? Did the old equipment keep you cool (with low humidity) and warm?

I purchased the Trane XV95 TUH2C100A9V4VA (2 Stage, Variable Speed, 61,800 - 95,000 BTU) ealier this year paired with a XL15i AC-4ton, and a 5-ton matched coil. Total system = 14.5 seer. I paid an extra $200 for a bypass humidifier but no special filtration system and no extended warranty.
Included was 30 ft of dual flue PVC pipe out the side of my house. I don't know the breakout but I paid $9800 up front for the entire package.....but later recieved a $300 rebate from Trane and a $700 rebate from PSE&G (utility company) giving me a net cost of $8800 (in NJ).
Key

Hi Ryan,

Hmmmm...I am not hearing a ringing endorsement for Lennox. Assuming equal quality of installation, do you feel that Trane, Lennox, or Rheem has a significant advantage over the others?

A heat loss analysis has been done, and fortunately the results were in agreement with the other quotes that were based on my old system stats. The old system did work pretty well.

Thank you for taking the time to help me sort this out!

Jon

Hi Ryan,

Hmmmm...I am not hearing a ringing endorsement for Lennox. Assuming equal quality of installation, do you feel that Trane, Lennox, or Rheem has a significant advantage over the others?

A heat loss analysis has been done, and fortunately the results were in agreement with the other quotes that were based on my old system stats. The old system did work pretty well.

Thank you for taking the time to help me sort this out!

Jon

Hi Key,

Thanks for your response...how do you like the Trane system?

Jon

"Do you feel that Trane, Lennox, or Rheem has a significant advantage over the others?"

Not really. I wouldn't have a problem with either one of them in my house. If push comes to shove, I'd probably choose the Trane since I do think their Spine Fin outdoor coil is very durable and has proven itself for years. Rheem and Lennox products are fine as well and definitely worth considering. Most brands use similar if not identical components, so the installing contractor will make the difference.

How do I like my Trane you asked?

Now ....I love it.
I say now because I had problems with the install due to my ducts being small resulting in high static pressure around 1.1.
This made me very concerned since I heard high static may shorten the units life. I love the flexibility of the variable speed because it allows me to run my unit 100% of the time at 80% airflow which helped reduce my static to ~ 0.73. For heat, I locked it into stage 1 so the static is only around 0.63.
Key

Hi Ryan,

In an earlier message you mentioned that I should get the coil number in writing. How would I determine which coil would be best for the Trane system I am considering?

(Trane XV95 Furnace TUH2C100A9V4VA and the Trane XR13 air conditioner 4TTR3036A)

Thank you for the suggestion of the VisionPRO IAQ. I looked it up after seeing your recommendation and it looks very impressive!

As I have been doing my research, I have come across several messages you've posted helping other newbies such as myself. For those of us new to HVAC, your assistance is invaluable! Thank you for taking the time to help!

Jon

Hi Key,

I am learning more every day...how did you determine that the static pressure was too high? Were there symptoms that you noticed?

Thanks,
Jon

Jon,

Looking at the AHRI database, which has ratings for the system, there are several coil options from Trane, some of which yield better performance specs. The 4TXCC044BC3 coil yields 11.8 EER and 14.0 SEER, for example. There are device for measuring static pressure. The variable-speed blower will ramp up to counter the increase in static pressure, causing it to be louder. Very important to have a good ductwork system.

When I first purchased the system earlier this year, I new nothing except that the upstairs was 12 degrees hotter than the downstairs when the AC was running. I found some HVAC sites similar to this one and learned how to solve the problem. During that process it was suggested by some seasoned pro's that I have my static pressure checked since it impacts air flow. My first response was "what the hell is static pressure?".... I learned quickly that static pressure can be viewed as "back pressure" on the blower fan. The more "back pressure" the harder the fan has to work to move the air. It is easier to push air through a large pipe versus a small one. Imagine blowing air throug a typical soda pop straw....then imagine trying to blow the same amount of air through one of those small red coffee stirrer staws. It is much harder to get the same amount or air through. If the ducts are grossly too small then the fan can't work hard enough to move the required air. While the fan is trying, it is burning much more electricity than what the salesman sold us on when he said it uses the wattage of a 75 watt light bulb. Also it is hard or the fan motor which could shorten it's life.
It is very easy to check static pressure. I own a Dwyer Magnehelic gauge which could be bought off the internet (amazon.com charges ~$100 but it can be had for as low as ~$60). It is a simple gauge that you connect a small rubber tube to....and take measurments while the unit is running. Knowing your static is very useful especially with new HVAC systems because they come with tables that relate airflow, wattage-used, and temp-rise, to static pressure. It helps trouble shoot problemms and pinpoint duct issues. Static pressure issues are independent of the manufacturer. If the system is to large for your ducts then the large blower is going to have to work hard to try and move the air through the too small ducts....
I can go on and on but this post is already to long :)
Key1