High humidity w/new Trane XL16i air conditioner (heatpump)
karstranger
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Comments (58)The old line set (copper tubing) can be reused assuming it is the correct size of the new system. If not then it needs to be replaced. It is not the preferred method, but it is done where replacing the line set is difficult. The new refrigerant will be R410. The old refrigerant (R22) must be flushed out of the old line set otherwise you have a contamination problem. This is another reason why it is good practice to replace the line set. FYI - we can talk about prices all day long on this forum. Be warned the lowest bid usually comes with the highest risk. Finally this has been beaten to death, but let's make sure you understand the concept. You can use a 3.5 ton air handler with a 3 ton condenser. The important thing is the air flow is adjusted to the correct speed. The 3.5 ton rating is the maximum air flow, not the minimum. In turns out in this case the 3.5 ton air handler has better efficiency numbers than the 3 ton air handler. If the bigger handler can physically fit in the space, then you can use it. You have to then decide if the extra efficiency is worth the extra upfront cost of the equipment....See MoreMy Quote on a New Trane XV95 Furnace and XL 15i AC: OK??
Comments (35)Finally got the quote from the 2nd Trane dealer: Furnace: XV95 + Honeywell VisionPro IAQ, new air supply ducting to upstairs bedroom, new cold air return on main - $5865. Furnace Model No. TDH2B080A9V3VA This has an output of 49,400/76,000 BTUH for stage 1 and 2. My current 80% AFUE Heil is rated 75,000 BTUH input, so this XV95 has at least 25% more heating capacity. Heat Pump Option: XL15i - $5905 complete. Model No. 4TWX5036B1000A (3 ton capacity, house is 2300 sq ft, 2-story) Installed with Trane Coil, Model No. 4TXXCB036BC3HCA (other dealer quoted a 4TXCB036BC3HCA, so maybe the above is a typo?) ARI Ref# 1384223 Cooling Capacity, 34800 EER (cooling), 11.40 SEER (cooling), 13.5 Heating Capacity @ 47F, 37200 Region IV HSPF (heating), 8.3 Heating Capacity @17F, 24200 This doesn't exactly look like a very stellar system combination for the price as none of the specs on the HP/coil combo would qualify it for the $1500 tax credit. I do believe the XV95 would qualify however. The other problem is I don't think the furnace or the HP would qualify for our local utility rebate of $350 since you can't get the rebate on a 90%+ furnace if installed as a backup system with a HP, and I don't think the HP listed here would qualify on it's own. Guess I would have to install the furnace and coil 1st, claim the rebate, then install the HP or AC if I felt like it. It's all too damn confusing. Pricing from all the dealers is pretty close, but the quotes are not exactly apples to apples so it is a bit hard to judge. I thought the XL15i had much better efficiency ratings that listed above. Think I need a quote on an AC unit instead of the HP as I still don't like the idea of the 95% AFUE furnace just sitting there most of the time. Would love any input or suggestions....See MoreNew Trane system needed, quote review and insight
Comments (12)We are not completely sold on going with a heat pump..we currently have an 8 seer 2.5 ton AC and an 8 seer 3 ton AC with gas furnaces. It is a 200 dollar difference to go with the 16 i heat pump versus the 16i AC units (same VS furnace.) For a 15 the quotes were: Trane XR15 2.5 Ton Dual Fuel Heat Pump System Trane XR15 Heat Pump System 4TWR5030 Heat Pump 4TXCB031BC Evaporator Coil TUD2B060A9V36 Furnace Includes (if necessary): Condenser Pad 1" Filter Rack Honeywell IAQ Thermostat Drain Pan Water Safety Switch All Labor Warranty: 10 Year Compressor 10 Year Evaporator Coil Lifetime Heat Exchanger 10 Year Parts 5 Year Labor with on-going Preventative Maintenance Agreement Trane XR15 R-410A 2.0 Ton Heat Pump 4TWR5024 This is $12,100. For the AC option:\Trane XR15 2.5 Ton AC System Trane XR15 Split System 4TTR5030 Condenser 4TXCB031BC Evaporator Coil TUD2B060A9V3 Furnace Honeywell Pro 4000 Thermostat Warranty: 10 Year Compressor 10 Year Evaporator Coil Lifetime Heat Exchanger 10 Year Parts 5 Year Labor Trane XR15 2.0 Ton AC System Trane XR15 Split System 4TTR5024 Condenser 4TXCB025BC Evaporator Coil TUD1B060A9V3 Furnace Honeywell Pro 4000 Thermostat Warranty: 10 Year Compressor 10 Year Evaporator Coil Lifetime Heat Exchanger 10 Year Parts 5 Year Labor This XR15 AC option is 10,400. I had not heard that the 16i was not a significant upgrade over the 15...i hope an expert will chime in. The sales rep suggested a heat pump in case natural gas prices stay low you would have the option of NG heat.......See MoreGoodman Air Conditioner...
Comments (101)I think we made a mistake? Our 20 yr old heat pump failed in Jan. We just installed a Goodman (Amana)3.5 ton split system in our 1540sf single story home. The new ac ran all day yesterday, the first day of installation, yet the home never cooled below 75deg (outside high temp range 93-100, 10-14% humidity)? Installer said: thermostat needed to "seat in, and the core temp of home needed to cool down." AC ran all day again today, yet could never get below 74 deg (outside high temp range 97-102, same humidity). The old Rheem 2.5 ton heat pump did just as good as new unit, which comes as a surprise to me? Isn't this new unit supposed to be more efficient? I have lived in several homes in this area over the last 25 years, and none of the ac units have run constantly. My last home, 1630 sf, had a 3 ton unit, yet the ac would only cycles on for 15-20 minutes, and cycles off for 15-20 min, easily keeping 68-72 deg. If I turned the thermostat lower, the house would get colder. I don't know how low it would go, but mid 60s easily, possibly high 50s? After reading this board, it appears we have made some mistakes, like choosing a unit that has r-12, or at least I think it does? It also appears we made a mistake by not choosing the 14seer over the 13seer, so to get the better, quieter "scroll" compressor? Maybe we bought the wrong brand of equipment? We are worried now, that this supposedly more efficient unit (as compared to low seer value of the old equipment) will be too costly to run if it is necessary to run it all day to achieve a reasonable, but not great level of cooling? Did we buy junk? East of Sacramento, near Folsom, CA...See Moresrercrcr
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