Is my two stage compressor really using both stages
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Comments (3)carl first, I have never been a big fan of two stg condensers AC or HP because of the price and marginal comfort and operating cost improvement. the main exception would be in a zoning application with zoning controls. the XL15i HP is one of the best sgl stg condensers on the market. there are two major reasons I like the XL15i pumps. this winter, the Atlantic states, South and Southeast were hit by major snow/ice storms. The XL15i has Trane's proprietary top which helps the condenser fan from freezing up. There were a lot of HPs that were simply overwhelmed by these storms and had to go to straight emergency electric backup. And then there is "electronic demand defrost" feature which eliminates unnecessary and nuisance defrost calls unlike time/temp defrost. I do recommend a staged heat strip. I know Trane has two sizes, a 7/12 KW and a 10/15 KW. You want a stat that has "dehumidify on demand" feature like HW VisionPro IAQ. as I have said before, good equipment, good install, good ductwork system will make a happy homeowner. I refer you back to my checklist from your other threads. using an old thermostat on either of these systems is a mistake. you want a stat that has "DOD" feature. IMO Good Luck!...See MoreCan you mix a single stage and two stage furnace?
Comments (5)Your post is a little confusing. It is not clear which equipment is for the first floor and which is the second floor. I think it is this: 1st floor: Comfortmaker G114000075-12M Rheem Classic X - RPKA030jaz 2nd floor: Rheem Criterion II - 80 afue Amana Distinctions - CKL24-IL - 1.5 ton There is nothing wrong with having one furnace be a single stage, and the other furnace being a 2-stage. The multiple stages are for comfort. A variable speed furnace will allow you get a more efficient AC. This would be attractive for your hot summers. If you are going to have only one 2-stage furnace, then it should be the one you use the most. I would think that would be the first floor furnace. You have mismatched equipment which means the efficiency is unknown. The proposed furnaces seem oversized. It could be these are the smallest sizes Rheem offers, or the smallest with the required blowers for the AC. I think the Rheem Classic X - RPKA030jaz is a 2.5 ton heat pump. The proposal is to replace it with a 1.5 ton unit. Did the contractor do a Manual J calculation to confirm the sizes?...See MoreDual Stage vs Dual Compressor-Trane or AS or?
Comments (3)I'll try to give my input where I can with your questions. I like the 2-compressor, 2-stage system because it is 50% capacity on low stage, so longer run times which means better comfort. I think your pricing is great on this equipment. Only thing that concerns me is potentially having to change out two compressors (which I probably wouldn't even bother doing) should one go bad and contaminate the system (which is the worst case scenario). Single compressor dual stage systems usually run around 80% capacity, give or take, on low stage, so less advantage with humidity control. So, as your quotes stand now, I like the American Standard option. The 2-stage unit will be nice to have for the main house, since you won't always need 5 tons. While generally I wouldn't recommend a 2-stage unit for just a master bedroom, they are really the same price before extended warranties are factored in. Since many extended warranties per system run $700 each, I think $1000 is reasonable for both to protect you from any failures. I'm not sure how reliable the components are--I haven't read anything terrible about them to date--but you would potentially have the extended warranty to eliminate that fear. And I wouldn't expect much more than 11-14 years out of a system built to today's standards, especially if you live near the coast and/or the system's is built around improperly sized/designed ductwork....See MoreSingle stage vs. Two stage, worth it? My head hurts-help!
Comments (15)"The biggest cost in operating a furnace is the electricity that a fan uses. " I think your math is waay off. Read Mike's description above for what a multistage system offers. He prefers them, I personally don't but i also don't live in a humid summer climate. If I did, I might share his view. Here's an example for the money calculation. - My furnace's blower seems to be between 500-600 watts. Let's be generous and round it up to 1000 watts. Operating for one hour would be 1 kilowatt hour, which at my top tiered rate is 30 cents. Remember we rounded up. And in most parts of the US, this number averages about 15 cents and can be much less. My furnace is 120K btu/hr, input. Let's round that DOWN to 100K btu/hr. At the top tier, I pay over $1.50 per therm (which is 100 btus) but lets round that down too to $1.20. Operating my furnace for one hour costs $1.20 for gas, 30 cents for electricity. The real electricity number is less because I rounded up, and the real gas number is more because i rounded down. Did I get something wrong?...See Moretexas_al
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