Can a quarter sawn or black kitchen be fun?
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willtv
12 years agoaloha2009
12 years agoRelated Discussions
Finished quarter sawn oak kitchen
Comments (11)thanks for the comments and for reposting the photos correctly for me!! the tile is just plain old white subway-- after driving myself nuts trying to decide on which lovely Ann Sacks tile to use, I gave up and just asked the contractor to pick up whatever white subway tile is cheapest. The grout was something else-- I asked the contractor to use one shade, then went with a different one and then when I pointed it out, they agreed to take it all out and redo it at no extra change because it was their misunderstanding! i don't recall the grout I ended up with-- there was so much drama about that grout but I am very happy with what I ended up with. Maybe I can go look through the archives and see what I posted at the time. Right now the archives don't seem to be working, but maybe tomorrow? The soapstone was purchased, delivered and installed by Old Mill Soapstone of Virginia. They called it "old original." I was free to pick out the slabs I wanted-- Sally was very helpful at showing me the ones she thought I would like. I really love the slabs that show the way slates of stone will shift and reform over time-- as if you can point it it and say-- "see, you can see how an earthquake caused the lines to break up." Thanks to everyone who gave me so much great advice and support to persue a kitchen that is a personal expression of who I am! Perula, you were the first to make me rethink what a kitchen can look like, but there were so many others out there too. thanks!!...See MoreReplace honey oak doors w/white oak quarter sawn?
Comments (7)I bought quarter sawn red oak cabinets for my previous kitchen and although the doors were quartersawn, the interior faces of the cabinets were regular red oak veneer. That's the way they were manufactured. Since the doors were full overlay, the parts of the cabinets that were not quartersawn were never really visible and I had "furniture" sides so those were also quartersawn. However, red oak and white oak are different species, with the white oak tending more towards browner tones. If I were you I would buy a sample door and see how the color match goes with your current boxes. Or you can buy an unfinished door and see if you can play with stain to match the color. You might be able to find a stain close to your current cabinets in tone that will be good with the honey oak. ....See MoreIs this rift sawn or quarter sawn white oak?
Comments (7)The end product when you saw logs at the mill is only slightly under the sawyer's control, because the growth rings/grain vary at points throughout the log. Only riftsawn veneer is a reliable way to get that one particular grain format, because they cull through hundreds of pieces and get the veneer mill running just right. In 1890, they had enormous white oak tree trunks to pick through, which yielded unimaginably (in 2000's) wide and flecky planks of Q-sawn. If you want picture perfect matched rift grain, either use veneer or be prepared to have the costs skyrocket, because the cabinetmaker will have to pick through piles of lumber to get the best matching grain....See MoreContractor used red oak plain sawn to match original quarter sawn
Comments (10)Did they put a stain on the new section to try to make it match the old section? And did they refinish the wood floors in the old section at the same time, or just finish the new flooring? I am far from an expert in flooring, but it almost looks the there is a difference in stain or type of finish rather than a difference that is based on how the the boards are sawn. When we bought our house 5 years ago, it came with 60 year old red oak in our living and dining rooms that looks very similar in color to your old section. In two separate renovations since then, we replaced the floor in two adjacent rooms to match. In both cases, there is far less color difference than you see in yours. In the first case of our family room, it was a dead on match and you would never be able to tell at first glance from the color that the family room and living room were installed 60 years apart. In the second case, our new kitchen floor ended up being just a hair lighter than the existing floor, but it’s a pretty subtle difference that might be exaggerated by a bit of an optical illusion due to chance — the doorway where the kitchen and dining room meet ended up with the new section having a couple of the lightest boards butt up against a a couple of the darkest boards from the old section. In your case, I’d be tempted to get a second opinion from a flooring contractor to see if there is anything that could be done stain or finish-wise to better make the woods match, or if it is really a difference in the character of the wood, or the way the boards were sawn. EDIT: Added photos to give you a sense of how close the matches in our house are. First photo is living room/family room, other two are the kitchen....See Moresenator13
12 years agoHere is my q/s cab kitchen with black counters. Mind you it is brand new, so I don't have a lot of finishing touches that I think will make it more whimsical. I have a great cow picture that is going to be hung, as well as a lot of vintage items that have color. Good luck!
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karen_belle
12 years ago
lisa_a
12 years agocheri127
12 years agoWe have QS white oak cabinets and had to be careful with door style, molding and hardware to not have them look mission. I thin we succeeded. However, I agree with you that it's "serious" looking. I have a fun old ceramic pig that's really a three piece canister set, in an alcove above the freezer, but the kitchen has an almost formal look which would clash with anything more whimsical than that. I don't think the same would be true with white or black painted cabinets and they might look better in an 1870 farmhouse.
lafacia
12 years agocolorfast
12 years agoremodelfla
12 years agoMine is fun... I'm fun! And I live in a non-descript small early 1970's ranch house in So. Florida. We went with QS slab fronts, clear coat, with soapstone. My motivation was to allow the graining of the wood to shine, ease of upkeep, and a clean uncluttered look.
boxerpups
12 years agoEvery idea you have listed would be lovely.
What is your favorite? I love that you want to stay true
to the house style without giving up your loves.
You will come up with something that works. Don't give
up. You are already close when you say:" ......I want the new kitchen to be fun and functional... We love the qs cabs but worry it could look too mission, and also too serious, ...."
Have you tried the sweeby test?
You might try to write a mission statement.
What do you want your kitchen to be? What feel, mood,
idea, style,? You have already chosen a sink. Now you can
build on that and go with the favorites in every catagory.
Don't let this tear you down, this is the time for fun.
Creativity, joy and exploration into what you truly LOVE.
Here is a link to the sweeby test.Meanwhile here are some visual ideas. I tried to find ones
with your sink choice. And your pre-plans of"........ white painted cabs w/ wood counters, black cabs w/ wood or marble counters, or quarter sawn oak cabs w/ honed granite counters.........."
~boxerHave you thought about mixing wood, black, white and oak?
Here is a link that might be useful: Sweeby test...
mpagmom (SW Ohio)
12 years ago
cawaps
12 years agodaisychain01
12 years agosombreuil_mongrel
12 years agoMine's quartersawn and black (soapstone) and I think it's fun. Not giggle-inducing or hilarious, but fun at times.
Casey
KristinF2012
12 years agoI wanted to do black cabs, but my kitchen just isn't naturally bright enough. I wound up doing a black island and I love it. If I was going for resale value I would have done a dark stain, but I have to live with it and I wanted black... so I went for it. I'm glad I did... I LOVE it. I think it still rings true to the classic look but with a little touch of modern.
We're still not complete... Moldings still need to be done and the slider is going to be changed to a french door once it warms up a bit :) But this gives you an idea. I definitely think black cabinets are fun!
plllog
12 years agoI agree with what the others have said about the quarter sawn--don't use Mission or even Arts & Crafts styling, and it doesn't have to look Mission.
One way to up the fun factor is to go rather contemporary in styling. There are a lot of contemporary and "Modern" style cues that go well with historical, including simple lines, slab fronts, and chunkiness, and the quarter sawn would bridge the eras as well.
As for "fun", that depends on your definition. You could put in a fun backsplash and totally change the tone of the room. If this is too extreme, it also comes in clear. :)
kalapointer
12 years agoMy island is QS oak in a natural finish and the perimeter are QS with a dark red stain called Vineyard. And I have fun in my kitchen.
aloha2009
12 years agoNot exactly being a fan of black cabinets, but not seeing anything else that would look right for our kitchen we're going with black. I too wanted to make sure my kitchen still would be a place that made a person happy to be in there.
When using black cabinets, I thought it was important to keep the upper cabinets to a minimum, have a lot of white in other areas (counters, walls) and loads of natual lighting (adding two windows).
After we got our plan decided we happened to luckily come upon a model home with a kitchen with close to our kitchen design and many of the same attributes. The kitchen had grey counters and no natural lighting in the kitchen and it still seemed fun enough. I'm anticipating a super fun kitchen.
Here's an IKEA replication we have (the best the software provides).
cotehele
12 years agoThis is an 1892 house. QS Oak can be many styles. Fun? I guess it depends on your definition of fun. Our kitchen is fun to cook in, fun to be in, fun to see...for me. :-)
Here is a link that might be useful: More pictures here
leonardlikespizza
12 years agowilltv
12 years agodrainbead
12 years agoGlad this thread got resurrected at the right time for me to post some almost-done progress pics. I'm doing a transitional kitchen with a lot of Mission elements, and I think it's pretty fun.
ILoveRed
12 years ago
chris8484
9 years ago
malhgold