Pantry - adjustable vs fixed
gandr1212
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pull-out vs. roll-out pantry
Comments (8)The thing about a pullout pantry is that there's restricted access to the middle. I think 12"-15" is ideal, though 18" isn't out of the question. It might mean moving this or that to get the other thing, but can be done. That's assuming that you can access the pantry from both sides. 18" is definitely the limit if you can only get in from one side. Looked at the other way, 18" is about the narrowest cabinet that's comfortable to get into with your arm extended to the back. If you go with the pullout, it might make sense to do a full height one, or a pullout on top as well as bottom. Roll out trays are much easier to use, especially for lowers, than pullouts because you can get into them from above rather than only from the side. What they have better than drawers for a pantry is the ability to see in over short sides, and the ability to see all the trays in the cupboard at once rather than having to remember which one has what in it. If I were in your situation, I'd check to see if there were any difference in the size of the tray between the pullout and roll out. I have a feeling (which I'm assuming was created by something I learned along the way) that there might be more tray space in the pullout. If not, then it's not a matter of how much you can store but how easily you can get at it. So, if you have roll out trays, where does the door go? Do you have a 90" hinge? Most Euro style hinges are 90 degrees. Which means that the door is blocking on side of the trays. Perhaps you even have a wall there? I have 170 degree hinges, but those are big and can also can interfere with what's inside, which could be a problem in a narrow pantry. But even with a 90 degree door, you can get in from the top. Plus, it's easier to get into the pantry to retrieve something that slipped over the side. With the pullout pantry, you might want to get a trigger gripper, which can be helpful. Just remembered what might tilt it decisively to the rollouts: You can put more roll out shelves in a pantry than you can trays on a pullout. Because all the trays on a pullout come out at once, you need air space between them to get stuff in and out. With roll outs, you can have trays that are one can high, or one box of X high, and have only an inch margin to the next tray up. In that way, you can fit a lot more in the same cupboard....See MorePantry Storage: closet vs. pull out cabinets
Comments (16)Jakuvall-Your experience is interesting to me. WHy not just have a closet at the end of the cabinet run? I guess there would have to be a way to incorporate it so it doesn't look like just a drywall box? I think that having shallow shelves is key, so that the stored items are visible and accessible. Herbflavor-Like you said, extra storage space is usually a bonus. Makes it hard to complain, even if it isn't quite perfect. tmy-here my original pantry ispiration: [Contemporary Kitchen design[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/contemporary-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2103) by Boston Closets And Organization Marie Newton, Closets Redefined I would love storage like that! a2gemini-I would love a pocket door. But I guess you have to have at least a 60" space, right? Room for the door + the pocket?...See MoreReach-in Pantry Closet vs Cabinet Pantry?
Comments (7)I had a walk in pantry that was about 7 feet deep with narrow shelves along one side and slightly deeper across the back. It was across the hall to the garage from the rest of the kitchen and it was a pain. It looked great when staged for selling the house, but it didn't work that way. My pantry here was in the kitchen proper -- a step-in across a corner. That was better for convenience, but the shelves were only across two sides and nearly half of them got lost in deep corners. I tried trays and baskets to keep things organized, but it just didn't stay organized. My kids would throw things back in and it seemed we were always loosing stuff in the back or underneath. The dog food and drinks that went on the floor somehow gravitated out to the step-in space at least at times. The shelves in both of these were fixed and the function could have been improved by ripping out the shelving and reworking things, but never had the chance at the last house and we decided to take out the corner pantry and replace with cabinets. It really opened up the kitchen space, so we were happy about that. We'd had a 24" pantry cabinet that came with minimal shelving before and we knew we didn't want that. We did the rollouts for dry goods (boxes and bags) and a pullout tower for cans and bottles. My spices went into a drawer. It seems to be more efficient - easier to see what I have and to get to it, better turn over of staples, and most of it stays better organized. I don't have to straighten them too much -- just the bread and snack drawers at the breakfast hutch, and they are much easier because they are not too large and I can easily see and reach everything. Never underestimate the value of full extension glides. LOL...See MorePullouts vs Rollouts for pantry cabinets that flank fridge
Comments (8)You were correct - Roll outs are the trays that you have to manually pull out after opening doors. They're often called "ROTS" - Roll Out Tray Shelves. Pullouts are when the shelves are attached to the door and pull out automatically when you open the door. I would do all pullouts. You will find it almost impossible to access/open an ROTS toward the top - unless you are very tall...think about a shelf over 6' off the floor (maybe even 7') - can you reach it easily? In addition, with a pullout, you can find what you want at one glance, you don't have to open each tray individually With a set of ROTS, you have to: open the door; then open a tray, look, push it back in; open the next tray, look, push it back in; repeat over and over until you find what you're looking for; then retrieve the item, close the tray; finally, close the door. With a pullout, you pull open the door, look, retrieve item, close - you're done! There are very few items that cannot be stored in a pullout - even chips, cookies, etc., are easily stored on pullout shelves. I'm not sure why someone said they weren't.....? In fact, I can't think of anything right now that cannot be stored on a pullout shelf. One thing, make sure the shelves are adjustable - that way you can determine what you want to store where and adjust the shelves accordingly. BTW...there's less to be "left open" with a pullout than with ROTS. You just have to close the pullout vs close an ROTS and then close the door. Oh, one other thing - with an ROTS, you need to be sure it's completely closed b/f closing the door. Otherwise, the ROTS will nick the inside of the doors and it can become beat up looking over time. Yes, it's the interior, but still... (Yes, experience speaking! :-( )...See Moredonnakay2009
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