Hi Angie, I'm doing something similar. The trick is "how to get the bog to upflow while at the same time using gravity to pull the water from your existing waterfall to the bottom of your bog". So...place a very small pond inside your bog which will collect the water from the falls either directly or via the stream. (I got one from Craigslist) Make sure it reaches the bottom of your bog but will still also remain 1-3" above the level of water in your bog. This will keep it from just overflowing. Because your insert is inside your bog, a little splashing and a little overflow won't hurt anything Fan out and away from your inserted pond several pieces of 4"-6" double walled black drainage pipe (Stronger and has smooth wall on inside; good for flow). At the farthest distance away from your pond insert, they should not be spaced out any further than 4' apart. Now you know how many pipes you need to connect to your small pond insert. Place pipe next to pond insert, close to the bottom and mark to cut. Try to get a nice snug fit. We want the water to travel through the drainage pipes and be dispersed evenly throughout the bog bottom. If you have many pipes to attach you may want to pick up a coupler that looks like a peace sign. This will join 3 pipes into one fitting, which can then be attached. Now that you have everything in place you will need to cap off the end of each pipe opposite the inserted pond. It may be unnecessary, but I am going to put a screen on the end that goes into the insert to keep leaves and other debri out. You will also want the new pipes elevated about 1" for every 2' as they leave the insert towards the outer edges. This will allow you to use the very system you use to feed your bog to be reversed and backflushed. Just turn off your waterfall and stick a pump in your inserted pond. With everything now in place take a skill saw and set blade to 2" depth. Cut slits every 18" apart for water to travel into bog. You may need to add more, but we don't want our water to escape into bog before it reaches the slits in outer edges. When done right, water should shoot out all slits without overflowing the new insert. How many slits are needed will depend on: how many tubes you used, waterfall flow rate, how tight your pipes fit into insert, etc. Now you should be ready turn on your falls and see if you have enough slits. If you have water coming out abundantly, cut more slits, starting at the outer edges and working your way back to the insert pond . Do this until your water is coming out but not spraying out to forcefully

eaglesgarden; Well alright then to tell you the best way is to have chains and blockage of some sort. That's what I do. I grow a lot of greens if it was all,lets say lettuce. Then I would have way more than could be consumed. Picture this, mature Chard taking up 2 foot of a 4 foot shelf. Even well trimmed Chard in the pot is 2 foot tall. The other end is lettuce seedlings taking up the remainder of the shelf space. Fine except for where the lettuce and chard meet. No way Jose can the chains be adjusted for this. Curt:-) P.S. I do not have room for extra shelves/lights.

Thanks for the kind words and great ideas everyone! It was a very exciting game, particularly the 2nd half. It looked like the Jets were really coming back there for a bit. The Jets had a great season, for my husband's sake, I hope they do as well next year. This week is nuts for us, so I think I'm tabling the dinner until next week. But, I believe the menu is going to be: tossed salad with homemade dressing, roast chicken with root vegetables, mashed potatoes, broccoli and fresh (bread machine) bread. Brownies from a mix for dessert. That will be an impressive dinner for my guy! And his buddy who was here skating will be invited also since he was cheering on the Black and Gold with me. I'll take pictures :) AM

I found this thread fascinating. There was a time, not so long ago, when nobody ever thought about the safety of their money in a CD and never considered the issue of the bank's solvency and the chances of getting their money back. Time really have changed. I would suggest another place to park money at minimal risk: A money market mutual fund with one of the big 3 -- Fidelity, Vanguard or T Rowe Price. It may not pay as much as a CD (but sometimes may pay more), and it is not FDIC insured. But it is managed in such a way as to safeguard the principle, so that each share is always kept at the nominal $1.00. A loss of principle, which they call "breaking the buck" is a real no-no, it's conservatively invested to prevent that. The advantage of these instruments is that you do not lock in an interest rate -- the rate is adjusted periodically -- I think once a week -- in response to prevailing conditions. So if interest rates are going up, which they generally do when inflation is rising, you'll earn a little more. The other alternative, for individuals in a high tax bracket, is a municipal money market mutual fund. It pays less interest that the taxable version and you have to do the numbers for your particular situation to figure out whether the taxable or tax-free makes sense for you. Lately, some analysts have been unenthusiastic about municipal bonds, which are federal and state income tax free, if you live in the state that issued the bonds -- the reason: a lot of state governments are in financial trouble lately because of the economic downturn and some may not be able to meet their obligations. Although munis are usually considered safe investments long-term, a tax-free money market fund, which invests in short-term munis and other tax-free instruments and is broadly diversified, is a safer alternative.