recently applied oil poly turning stain orange?
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Comments (4)The floors will look different with water based finish, since that rich warmth you like is the result of using oil based finishes. Water based finishes do not add the amber/rich tint. That results in a look that often looks washed out or bleached. It is actually the natural color of the finished wood with no added color, but people are so used to the added tint of oil based finishes, seeing an application without the amber tint looks different. You are correct in the fact water based finishes dry more quickly and do not smell as bad. The science of creating finishes have made water based finishes better and almost as serviceable as oil based finishes. Once oil based finishes completely cure(up to 30 days for area rugs) and 2-3 days to walk on, there should be no odor. I applied oil based floor poly on our floors and the smell was gone in three days. It was(is) nasty when applied/curing, but no odor after curing. Getting the rich color you like will be problematic when using water based finishes, since that tone would need to be created with a stain or dye. Not impossible, just difficult to find the exact recipe of colorants....See MoreValspar Canyon Brown Transparent Deck stain turned out ORANGE
Comments (7)I like stain better on outdoor uses like this. Because wood varies, and the use of a second product over this will have unpredictable results, you will want to get sample cans and try out different products on scrap or in an unobtrusive area over the current stain color to see how the two combine. (You probably want to do samples before starting any future project to avoid this type of situation in the future.) Make sure they will be compatible with your current product. I think that going to a good independent paint store with photos and asking for suggestions might be helpful. It looks like you stopped part way down the fence and the part visible closest to the house is unstained. Once you decide on the second coat, you will want to stain this the first color before adding the second or your fence won’t look the same all the way down. I might start with gray tones since small amounts of black added to orange will make brown....See MoreNatural white oak flooring stained yellow/orange - can it be 'fixed'?
Comments (20)SJ McCarthy, I do have photos of the cracking and rising floor boards. And of the spotty finish, streaks, and drips. The boards have sat untouched and unfinished in our AC home for the last nine months, and within days of the oil and water applications the cracking and rising occurred. It’s been less than ten days since the floor has been finished. The guy who did the work was the owner of a highly rated flooring refinishing company in my area. We agreed to use a water-based finish which is on my contract as Poloplaz 1k water-based floor finish with a matte sheen. When he arrive he talked me into using an oil-based product instead, stating that it would keep the natural color as it is, but also preserve the wood. I apologize for repeating myself here -- I was so fearful of the oil yellowing the white oak which I stated many times to him, but he assured me if it did yellow it wouldn’t be for fifteen to twenty years. He said he would be using a clear, natural, expensive oil-based polyurethane finish that was newly opened. I'm not sure of the brand but I do have a photo of the yellow oil drip down the side of one of the white panels around the stairs. The next day after the oil application he added the matte flat water-based finish and I absolutely know what product he used because after the second coat was applied I followed him out to his truck voicing my concerns about the color/finish of the floor and he showed me the container… Bona Traffic HD extra matte. That’s when he blamed the product for the streaky look of the finish. He said he doesn’t like using this Bona product for quality reasons but because I insisted on a matte finish he didn’t have a choice. He said he could use a different product but it would leave a shine and not have the matte look I wanted. Thankfully the guy did not apply the 'natural poly' over the factory finished Shaw floors. My contract with him states that he would apply it over the entire dining area, and I was charged for it, but at the last minute the decision to not do it was made. The guy is not affiliated with my general contractor because I wanted to hire a flooring ‘professional’ who truly understood hardwood floor finishes. I was incredibly anxious and very select about what I wanted in the finish and it took me a while to find and then trust someone. Unfortunately I paid him in full. Contractors, here at least, are allowed to have a lien against your home if you withhold payment and because I'm not familiar with what that truly means legally for me, as the homeowner, I paid. Thank you for your information regarding an inspector from NWFA -- it's a great idea and I will most certainly make a few phone calls. Recent research has informed me that an oil-based polyurethane needs to cure for at least two weeks to 60 days before adding a water-based finish, do you know if that statement is true? And if so then the pro not waiting for the curing time before applying the water-based finish likely and knowingly voided the warranty on the Bona product -- he's been in business a long time so he would know. Also, is a natural polyurethane the same as an oil-based polyurethane? I'm just making sure I understand everything before speaking with an inspector. Thank you so very much for your advice and time, SJ McCarthy, I really appreciate all of your help....See MoreMedium brown hardwood stain with oil based poly?
Comments (12)Oil poly = orange. Not even yellow but ORANGE. If you are confident you will NOT be upset by orange floors (regardless of colour underneath) then go for the oil. Your 'pro' is trying to sell you on oil based because it is CHEAPER and EASIER to purchase/work with. Both help HIM/HER rather than you. So...now the question: have you seen the stain patches WITH THE FINISH on top? Always always always view the stain patches with a coat of the finish over top. Always. If not, you are picking blind. We have HUNDREDS of threads on houzz, "Help! I hate my floors! Why are they orange?" Happens on a DAILY basis. And remember: oil based poly = STINKS FOR 30 DAYS! Yah. As in migraines and nose bleeds type of smell. As someone who has migraines AND asthma I can tell you it is a B!TCH to be around newly finished oil poly floors. If you compare the costs of the Bona System (can be triple the material costs) to staying in a hotel/motel for another 3 weeks, you will find the Bona is a better (financial) choice. I personally like to see stain + 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD. It is DEATHLY important to state in the CONTRACT (yep...please write one): Floors to be Finished with 3 Coats of Bona Traffic HD (the HD is SUPER IMPORTANT). Do not let the 'guy' switch out Bona Traffic HD for Bona Mega. Bona is the company...Traffic HD is the LINE! You want the BIG BOY being used and you want 3 coats for 20+ years of worry free floors. Anyone who tries to sell you on oil based poly being tougher than water based is NOT trained to use the big boys. They are the guys who purchase their products from Home Depot and then claim it isn't as good as oil based. That's the level you are working with if they 'sell' the oil based....See MoreNikki Fuyala
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