WaterFurnace 5 or 7? ClimateMaster?
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Comments (10)Like any system, there are geothermal energy pros and cons. The hardest thing to accept about a geothermal heat pump system is that the average cost of initial installation is higher, and a good bit so, than a traditional central system or even an air source heat pump. It’s this upfront cost that steers many buyers away. IS A GEOTHERMAL SYSTEM WORTH THE INVESTMENT? Geothermal heat pumps are the most efficient. A high-efficiency furnace or central system achieves around 90-98% efficiency on fuel or energy consumption. That’s pretty good, for sure. But geothermal? 300% or more efficiency! How does that work, you might wonder? Well, the number cited represents the amount of thermal energy being generated per use of unit of fuel, which in the case of a geothermal heat pump, means that they are generating more than they are using, whereas a furnace, even of the highest caliber, doesn’t quite use the fuel source to 100%. A geothermal heat pump saves on heating and cooling costs. Your average home equipped with a geothermal heat pump will save around 10-15% per month on heating and cooling costs, and in many cases that percentage is much higher. That means over time your geothermal system begins to pay for itself!...See MoreMath Madness with GeoThermal vs Hybrid - sanity check please.
Comments (28)"The trench would be about 7 feet deep and 1 foot wide, thus, the average depth of the coil would be about 5 feet." This tells me that they would install a vertical Slinky, probably with a backhoe. A chain trencher, 'Witch Ditch' would probably be narrower than 1 foot wide and would be a faster install, unless soil conditions do not permit this technique. Avg. depth of 5 feet could mean that the loops are 4 feet in diameter meaning the top of the loop may be only 3 feet below the surface. If this is so, then this may not ideal. Top of the loop should be at least 4 feet deep (minimum) or deeper. Digging should be contracted to someone with the right equipment (chain trencher, 'Witch Ditch'). Even then this may be less than ideal in that it's harder to flush a vertical slinky (standing up) than a horizontal slinky (laying flat) in that any trapped air will reside at the tops of these vertical loops. This trapped air could be a serious impediment to liquid flow as it may form an air lock thus shortening or short-circuiting the entire loop. Bottom line in plain English, it will work - if properly designed, installed, purged and FLUSHED! SR...See MoreGeotherm vs uber high efficiency gas
Comments (6)Cschmelz, I gather you're in the Spokane area? I'm in Missoula, and I have a Climatemaster Tranquility 27, installed two years ago. It provides heat and air conditioning for our century old stucco bungalo. You might be able to find some of my old posts by searching this forum. I noted just a couple of things in your post. First off, I thought the price for the basic heat pump installation with ground loops was pretty reasonable for this sort of thing. Second, I wondered why your contractor felt the necessity for adding a solar collector to improve the performance during the winter. My thought, and I may well be wrong, is that if the ground loop is large enough and deep enough you should have no need to help it with the water-to-water/solar collector, which stirked me as Rube Goldbergish. (Keep It Simple, Stupid). That assumes, of course, that your 10 tons of heating/cooling is sufficient. As for hot water you may well find that with the desuperheater on at least one of your Climatemasters that you don't need a very large or even efficient water heater. Again, I may well be wrong, but if that heat pump is properly sized and installed and backs up a conventional 40-50 gallon gas water heater you'll have everything you need. Of course, if you have three teenagers you'll need all the hot water you can get, and all my guesses are hereby withdrawn. Caveat: I ain't no engineer or installer, and there are better minds than mind on this forum, but that's my two bits for what it's worth. Good luck, Mark...See MoreClimateMaster Trilogy experiences?
Comments (0)I recently got quotes for both a Water Furnace (series 5 and 7 - 3 tons in size) and a ClimateMaster Trilogy 45 (1860). I know several people around me that have Water Furnace systems (both series 5 and 7) and really like them. With being at these people's houses, the thing I immediately notice is how quiet the systems are as you really can't hear them running. I don't know any people offhand that have the Trilogy 45. The ClimateMaster installer said he's installed a few Trilogy 45 systems so far and has several more to install in the coming weeks. He said people love the idea of the geo providing all of the hot water and that's one thing that has me leaning towards the Trilogy. The other thing is that because of the variable compressor, it can output more heating btu's than I should ever need. My heating load comes in at just under 40,000. Since the Trilogy is fairly new, I'm trying to find any people's experiences (good or bad) with a Trilogy system....See Morefsq4cw
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