Well Antss I did that. First looked up the single model of the oven, then looked up the double oven (Same model) as best as I could determine. I looked at a tremendous amount of posts on many many sites, Sears, Best Buy, AJMadison, Retrievo etc etc. One site had quoted "Some appliance Review site, Not CR but something similar (I Think) and alto they gave no "Helpful details" or what kind of problems---they just basically stated that the double ovens have more problems. You and I both know, except for a few cases, "Here and There" both Elux and Miele receive good reviews both about performance and Reliability. If we just used the info on GW, I wouldn't have a problem recommending either one (If price no object). I though it best, especially after Kelsold's comments to research it as far as I can. Your info is probably better than any I have found , so far, as you have your customer base as a measuring stick. I guess we will kinda "Tally up the Results", on my post about the reliability/performance between the 2, (If any). Thanks for your post! Gary

I'm currently battling Whirlpool over replacement of a Jade fridge--Whirlpool now owns Dacor, Jenn-Air and Jade--and they have told me they "can't get" the Dacor fridge. What this means, or if it's even accurate, I have no idea. They have also told me that the Jenn-Air fridge--basically the same fridge but a bit cheaper with different handles--is "built to order," meaning they don't make them until they're ordered. Not sure if this is true either, but it's what I've been told by both a salesperson and Whirlpool themselves. If I didn't already have cabinets built to fit this fridge (all are built on the same chassy), I would definitely look elsewhere. -Susan W.

I'm excited to have learned something new today! I love the history of these pieces ... The Lloyd Loom process was invented in 1917 by the American Marshall B. Lloyd, who twisted kraft paper round a metal wire, placed the paper threads on a loom and wove them into what was to become the traditional Lloyd Loom fabric. Lloyd Loom chairs quickly became very popular in the United States and in 1921, Marshall B. Lloyd sold his patent to an English manufacturer, which used Lloyd Loom in an original manner to create a collection of typical English furniture. Lloyd Loom was soon all the rage in Europe. At the height of its popularity, in the 1930s, Lloyd Loom furniture could be found in hotels, restaurants and tea rooms, as well as aboard a Zeppelin, cruise ships and ocean-going liners. When the factory in England was bombed at the end of the Second World War, the production of Lloyd Loom chairs came to a halt in Europe. Lloyd Loom of Spalding furniture is still manufactured in the traditional way in their Lincolnshire Factory, as does Geoffrey Lusty of William Lusty (UK), who is the grand son of Willam, from Chipping Camden in Gloucestershire. Kraft paper is twisted round a metal wire, forming paper threads that are woven into mats. This 'upholstery' is then attached to a beech wood frame, many companies use inferior woods such as rattan and employ, labour from the far east - currently Lloyd Loom of Spalding and Geoffrey Lusty of Wilam Lusty (UK) are just two of the few remaining British Manufacturer of Lloyd Loom and both firms remain true in their designs to the original practices of Marshall B. Lloyd and William Lusty. Other popular European manufacturers of Lloyd Loom include Neptune and Vincent Sheppard.

I tested a unit from www.energysavermart.com which is like the KVAR in claiming huge savings. I bought 3 units from them - a 2401M which is the whole house unit installed at the breaker panel and (2) 2401S units which are installed at the A/C or heat pump and are wired on the output side of the power relay so that they are only energized when the A/C is running. These units have a 30 day satisfaction guarantee so I figured "what the heck?" and bought them. I have read reports from the skeptics saying these devices do not work and from the testimonials of users who say their electric bills were dramatically reduced. I figured the best and only way for me to decide whether these work was a controlled experiment, which I performed as follows: I first turned off all of the breakers in my house except for one of my two A/C units and one of my two furnaces (for the blower motor). I then turned my thermostat up to 80 degrees and I checked my electric meter for 4 minutes to make sure that it did not move (which it did not) verifying that I had no electric load running. I then turned my thermostat down to 60 degrees and used my stopwatch to time how long it took my electric meter to make 50 revolutions, which was 6 minutes and 30 seconds (390 seconds). I then turned the thermostat back up and installed one of the 2401S units, removing the hard start capacitor (as per the written instructions). I then turned the thermostat back down to 60 degrees and used my stopwatch to time how long it took my meter to make 50 revolutions, which was now 6 minutes and 29 seconds (389 seconds, which was virtually the same as without the unit installed, but actually 1 second faster!). I then turned the thermostat back up to 80 degrees and I removed the 2401S from my A/C, reinstalling the hard start capacitor. I turned the thermostat down to 60 degrees and again timed how long it took my electric meter to make 50 revolutions, which was now 6 minutes and 27 seconds (387 seconds). So - my results were 390 seconds without the unit, 389 seconds with the unit, 387 seconds again without the unit. All trials were within 1% of each other which would be within a normal margin of error for no change, so I feel confident in saying that the 2401S made no difference in the metered electric usage. All three trials were within a 40 minute period in the morning (10:00 am to 10:40 am) with the ambient air temperature virtually unchanged. My A/C is positioned so that it received no direct sun at any time during my experiment. I did NOT measure the amp draw with or without the 2401S unit, since I was only concerned with saving money and my electric bill is based on the meter movement, not on the measured amp draw. As a note of praise for www.energysavermart.com - the units seemed to be well built, the installation instructions were well written and easy to follow, and when I returned the units under the 30 day satisfaction guarantee my money was promptly refunded to my PayPal account with no problems or hassles. I was unable to check the internal wiring on the unit because it was sealed and opening it would have voided my warranty and voided my ability to exercise my 30 day satisfaction return. In conclusion - do these devices save money on a residential electric meter? In my opinion - NO!!!! I admit that I did not test the KVAR brand though, but the principle of that device is the same. To any of the KVAR dealers (or to the sellers of any other similar devices) out there - if you believe that your units do actually work, send me one and I will promptly install your device and do a controlled test to determine the electric meter usage both with and without the device installed. If your unit does not save electricity, I will return it to you (you pay postage). Furthermore, if I am able to measure even a 5% reduction in electric usage (which is far less than the claims on your devices) I WILL GLADLY PAY FULL LIST PRICE for the unit and allow my name, photograph, and results to be used for free in any advertising and testimonials for your product. ANY TAKERS???