Energy savings of new refigerator vs. 10 year old model?
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Comments (7)One SubZero master distributor I met told me sometimes arranges trade ins. Have you tried to negotiate one? Fridges today are efficient. They consume a fraction of what fridges used to consume fifteen or twenty years ago. A half or a third or a quarter or a fifth. Savings measured at the fridge's electrical outlet are only one piece of the total savings. An old SubZero adds as much heat to a kitchen as a 1000 Watt heater running several hours a day. By producing less waste heat, an efficient fridge makes your kitchen more comfortable in the first place, and reduces the cost of air conditioning significantly. Air conditioning removes fridge heat by consuming about half the energy consumed by a refrigerator, so increase fridge operating cost by an additional 50% if you have air conditioning. Your mileage will vary depending on your climate (relatively high humidity or dry) and usage. -David In this Appliance Forum thread one post tells about spending $25 less a month on electricity after replacing an old fridge : Here is a link that might be useful: Energy savings of new refigerator vs. 10 year old model?...See MoreThree Energy and Money Saving Tips You Can Use TODAY
Comments (39)Happy new year! I would normally have replied much sooner, but everything has been so busy with Christmas, then new year and all the rest. Anyway, I have to agree that conservation is by far the best thing we can do right now, and I believe that it will allways be useful as almost all energy comes with a penalty. Both environmental and financial. I've been thinking about conservation quite a bit recently as I'm trying to get a rough idea how much it would cost to build an affordable house (you might have seen my posts about it?) and I want it to be economical to live in. This is partly an environmental concern, but also because it would be misguided to build an affordable house that isn't also affordable to live in. The majority of most anyone's wages go towards their house, so if I can build a house that uses minimal energy I can spend the money in other more enjoyable ways. I can also design it in such a way it comes in to the lowest possible tax category, but that's beyond the scope of this forum. One of the things that surprises me is when I say I want to build a low energy house that uses renewable energy, people tend to picture something very expensive and custom built. When I researched it I found that commonly they're high end houses built for wealthy customers who were willing to spend a lot of money to have luxury items, like solar PV panels and houses built half underground. I don't however see why houses that use very little energy have to be reserved for wealthy people building custom houses, after all one of the main attractions of a low energy house is the very small monthly bills. A low energy house design/concept that comes within (preferably below) average house prices is long overdue, and also has a massive market potential. Admittedly domestic energy use is a fraction of that used by industrial processes, and also accounts for a similarly small percentage of pollution, but I know nothing about industrial processes and (thankfully) don't pay the bills for them either. At least not directly. I do however know something about houses and how I believe they could work better. My main aim is to build it smaller, but use the space in such a way it's relatively spacious with plenty of storage. I also want to exchange traditional and generally energy wasting and expensive materials for newer materials that cost less. Insulation, and lots of it, is important. I also want high quality finishing materials, but avoiding ornate details and using a more minimalist style should keep the costs reasonable. The other main issue is using the most energy efficient appliances possible, and also installing some renewable stuff like solar hot water heating. At least in concept it seems to work, and hopefully one day I will be able to try it out....See MoreEnergy Savings of 2-Stage Compressors?
Comments (20)mike, I did not recall it was you that exchanged posts with me. In that exchange I referenced one White Paper discussing the very issue of efficiency versus 1/2 stages. Here is another general discussion: "When you consider that the part load output on a two-stage compressor operates at 67 percent, the result is a 22 percent decrease in cooling and heating capacity. At part load, the amount of kilowatts consumed is less with a two-stage unit. Because the unit can operate at either full or part load capacity, the kilowatts fall off faster than the capacity. The end result is a 40 percent increase in efficiency." (This is for a air-water HP.) As I have tried to explain, mass flow rate in a given pump or compressor varies with the cube of the power required for operation... this is an accepted relationship and all of the home heating and cooling folks make the claim of increased efficiency with 2 stages compared to 1 stage. With just a few keystrokes i found some number of sites that present efficiency data for 2 vs 1 stage applications - and yes, "considerably less" energy is an apt descriptor. Some of the comparisons are more difficult to follow than we might like .... As I said before, I accept my inability to adequately convince you of a fundamental operating parameter as my shortcoming and I an disappointed in my failure to be able to apply my background to this task....See MoreKeep or replace working 10-year old Frigidaire Gallery W/D?
Comments (4)Well, it is hard to say. Do the old ones really need fixing or is that just how they work as they are 10 years old? How much would it cost to fix them if you can even find replacement parts for them? Is the Maytag Epic reliable? Have you looked for reviews on Maytag Epics? You said you have to leave them behind if you sell the house. Is that required by law where you are? Everyone I know who has moved has always taken their appliances with them unless they were moving into a house with a better appliance than what they already have. If the sale of their house was contingent on it having appliances they just went out an bought used ones or ones from rehab outlets and left those behind. I got my FL as an anniversary gift so if anyone thinks its going to be left behind if I move, they are totally delusional. I'll replace it with something else if I have to, but my machine goes with me. Are you planning on being there long? If not, you might as well keep the old ones and only worry about replacing if it is really needed. Or you can put the new ones in, put the old ones in storage and when you move take the new ones and just put the old ones back. If I remember correctly, the average life span of a FL is about 10 years, but sometimes you get that diamond in the rough that just keeps going. I'm fairly certain that a newer machine, depending on the one you get, would probably clean better than what is there now. It could depend on what detergent you are using too and what stains aren't coming out. The scorching in the drier is definitely a prob as I still have my old TL drier and it isn't scortching any of my clothes, so that definitely needs to be fixed or replaced. Lord knows how much that may cost to fix too, if it can be fixed. I'm hoping some of the questions I posed helped. Unfortunately it is the best I can do to assist you. I use something until it wears out. Depending on my finacial situation at the time, I'll fix said item if that is all I can afford. If it keeps breaking down then I save up to replace it, but your situation is unique as you have to leave them if you move....See Moreharriethomeowner
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