Advantium vs Miele Master Chef Speed Oven

14 years ago

Hi.

I'm trying to decide between the Advantium 2201 and Miele Master Chef Speed Oven and need some Advantium questions answered (the local sales guy didn't know for sure).

It looks as if the Advantium's turntable can't be disabled. True?

If so, how do you do a single rectangular pan in bake mode? I know there's a rack which fits midway, but the instruction manual says the rack is to be used for two-layer cooking if there's already something on the turntable. GE's suggestion is to use the included round bake pan most of the time.

What happens if I were to use only the mid-mounted rack w/o the bottom pan for bake/broil (not microwave nor combination cook)

Questions about Miele: We don't have a display model in my town, so I can't get a good local answer. They'd be MORE than happy to sell it to me, though. ;-)

Is it true the Miele's MW function doesn't have a sensor? In other words, is it all going to be guesswork for reheating dishes, popcorn, tea water, etc until I get used to the oven? Also, I've HEARD (but not seen) that there's a front panel button to do a quick 30 sec MW. The advantium has it, and if you push it, say, 3 times, you'll be able to do a quick 1-1/2 min MW. Does the Miele's 30 sec button add time cumulatively?

Finally, it looks as if the Miele can be set up for either 120V or 240V without having to order a special model. True? I'd like to run it at 240V.

As always, thanks in advance.

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User
14 years ago
Miele is ONLY available in 240v versions.

No popcorn setting.

The 4082 & the 4080 have a "minute +" button on the face which bypasses the menu.

No sensor reheat for microwave.
sofla
14 years ago
I have had my advantium for only one week so still experimenting. To answer your question I had to go to the oven and check out the directions that appear on the touch screen. The oven comes with a glass circular and several metal circular platters that go on the turntable depending how you are using the oven. To bake you would use a rectangular glass bake pan on the glass turntable or on the rack that is in the center. Hope that answers your question.
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homepro01
14 years ago
Antss is correct. I have a Miele speedcook and it functions superbly for my needs. It does have a one minute button on the front panel. It is really easy to get used to. Start everything out at 30 seconds and see how it goes. I put bacon in there to reheat at 1min and there were pieces of paper left in the microwave. 20 secs and it was perfect! The speedcook function works really quickly. The miele manual has some guides but it still takes some getting used to. I used it to bake bread the other day and it was wonderful. I am going to order an extra swizzle stick (the stick you put in liquids to heat it up) because I can never find mine when I am looking for it. They run about $4.
The only thing that concerns me is the glass tray that is used in the oven. I worry that it will break easily. So far, it has proved much tougher than I expected. I have used a Le Creuset pan and several porcelain pans full of food without issue.

Good luck!
pucca
14 years ago
I am trying to make a similar decision. The rep from my local appliance store loves miele products. The speed oven in the store looks great, goes nicely over a miele 30 inch single oven. I have not seen the advantium. How do they compare?
User
14 years ago
The Miele has a much better fit and finish, and uses better components in my opinion. Miele's service network is miles ahead of GE should you ever need parts or repair.

Miele has a new speed oven out which eliminates two of it's drawbacks. The complex interface is gone in lieu of knobs and the price is a lot less making it a much better value. All else is the same.
dcwesley
14 years ago
From Miele's web site it looks as if there are a couple of other differences than the Masterchef interface. The more expensive version has "15 operating modes including AutoRoast" while the new less expensive version has 8 modes. The less expensive version does not come with a probe either.

I am hoping Miele puts the manual for the new version online soon so I can better compare te two.
User
14 years ago
DC - forgot about the probe, but the operating modes are controlled by the interface and it's really just about convience. They both have the same broil element and a convection element and magnetron. They'll both cook the same thing the same way , you may only set it up a bit differently.

Unless you are into using the Masterchef program blindly the ..82 is going to be more simple to use.
l1234
14 years ago
If you guys still agonize - here is my take. I would only consider 240V Advantium - the oven has access to 4800 W, while the 120C has only 2400 W - ergo: speed of cooking and effect is better in 240V unit.
But I am buying the Miele H4080 exactly because of the MasterChef interface. I see no advantage of H4082 unit and I ma tired of waiting for the 5000 series machines which are in Europe for several years now.
I am no cook and this machina knows what to do with what I get inside the oven -- I'll gladly do the eating.

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