It is my understanding that threads that have dropped off of the last page, are 'out there' in cyberspace somewhere.

I have saved the URL of threads that have dropped off the one page at the Test Forum, and I can post to the threads, but they don't come back and show up on GW.

Too bad you didn't save the URL of the thread too.

Sue

Here is a link that might be useful: One from 2008-Seven deadly Garden Sins

It wasn't until I was viewing it on the cd that I thought the others who had posted to that thread might like to read it again. I would like to e-mail it to them, but, alas, the only link I have is the link to the drive on my computer where it can be viewed. LOL! I guess I could do a copy and paste and send it that way.

some time back when the gremlins got into the servers of GW they lost many many back pages of data so that could be why they do not show up in your search here.

you can try going to the waybackmachine it archives a lot of websites and you can find some stuff from years ago.
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

Here is a link that might be useful: waybackmachine

An article of resolve
Posted by TxKen (My Page) on Thu, Sep 13, 01 at 11:15

I hope you will forgive me...this is our Computer Help Forum..but, it is also our home. As such, the following is most appropriate, it seems...
Published Wednesday, September 12, 2001 in the Miami
Herald.

We'll go forward from this moment

It's my job to have something to say.

They pay me to provide words that help make sense of
that which troubles
the American soul. But in this moment of airless shock
when hot tears
sting disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to
say, the only words
that seem to fit, must be addressed to the unknown
author of this
suffering.
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You monster. You beast. You unspeakable ba***rd.

What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's
attack on our World
Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What was it you hoped
we would learn?
Whatever it was, please know that you failed.

Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned
your cause.

Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our
resolve.

Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us
together.

Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and
quarrelsome family, a
family rent by racial, social, political and class
division, but a family
nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes, capable of
expending tremendous
emotional energy on pop cultural minutiae -- a
singer's revealing dress, a
ball team's misfortune, a cartoon mouse. We're
wealthy, too, spoiled by
the ready availability of trinkets and material goods,
and maybe because
of that, we walk through life with a certain sense of
blithe entitlement.
We are fundamentally decent, though -- peace-loving
and compassionate. We
struggle to know the right thing and to do it. And we
are, the
overwhelming majority of us, people of faith,
believers in a just and
loving God.

Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all
of this makes us
weak. You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are
strong in ways that
cannot be measured by arsenals.

IN PAIN

Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are
in shock. We're
still grappling with the unreality of the awful thing
you did, still
working to make ourselves understand that this isn't a
special effect from
some Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development
from a Tom Clancy
novel. Both in terms of the awful scope of their
ambition and the probable
final death toll, your attacks are likely to go down
as the worst acts of
terrorism in the history of the United States and,
probably, the history
of the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been
bloodied before.

But there's a gulf of difference between making us
bloody and making us
fall. This is the lesson Japan was taught to its
bitter sorrow the last
time anyone hit us this hard, the last time anyone
brought us such abrupt
and monumental pain. When roused, we are righteous in
our outrage,
terrible in our force. When provoked by this level of
barbarism, we will
bear any suffering, pay any cost, go to any length, in
the pursuit of
justice.

I tell you this without fear of contradiction. I know
my people, as you, I
think, do not. What I know reassures me. It also
causes me to tremble with
dread of the future.

In the days to come, there will be recrimination and
accusation, fingers
pointing to determine whose failure allowed this to
happen and what can be
done to prevent it from happening again. There will be
heightened
security, misguided talk of revoking basic freedoms.
We'll go forward
from this moment sobered, chastened, sad. But
determined, too.
Unimaginably determined.

THE STEEL IN US

You see, the steel in us is not always readily
apparent. That aspect of
our character is seldom understood by people who don't
know us well. On
this day, the family's bickering is put on hold.

As Americans we will weep, as Americans we will mourn,
and as Americans,
we will rise in defense of all that we cherish.

So I ask again: What was it you hoped to teach us? It
occurs to me that
maybe you just wanted us to know the depths of your
hatred. If that's the
case, consider the message received. And take this
message in exchange:
You don't know my people. You don't know what we're
capable of. You don't
know what you just started.

But you're about to learn.

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Follow-Up Postings:

RE: An article of resolve
Posted by: Cat (bilander@nctc.com) on Thu, Sep 13, 01 at 11:27

Thanks Tx Ken. That is extremely well written and speaks for the way we all feel. :-)Cat

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RE: An article of resolve
Posted by: DA (da_mccoy@hotmail.com) on Thu, Sep 13, 01 at 14:07

I also thank you for sharing the article with us.
It made me think of a quote attributed to Japanese Admiral Yamamoto as celebrations took place on his flag ship following the bombing of Pearl Harbor. I don't remember it word for word, but the idea is unmistakenable, "I fear that we have done nothing more than awaken the sleeping bear".

If you have an opportunity, listen to the old version of Kate Smith's "God Bless America". At this time, if it doesn't invoke your patriotism nothing will.

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RE: An article of resolve
Posted by: Andy_B52a (My Page) on Thu, Sep 13, 01 at 14:24

Just saw a report from London 2 minutes ago that Afganistan has bin Laden under house arrest, under pressure from Pakistan. Rumor? Time will tell.

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RE: An article of resolve
Posted by: Grandms (My Page) on Thu, Sep 13, 01 at 16:16

Well, Afghanistan and Pakistan can posture all they want, but heretofore they've done nothing but give him cover and comfort. Trust either of them? Not for a second.
The newspaper article tells it just like it is. I'm still sad, but my anger grows and grows....

Thanks Grandms. I saved it this time too, from your email. It was a wonderful post by Txken.

Cat

Just as those words rang true 10 years ago they still ring true today.

I had to chuckle a little at Ken's apology for posting the article. 10 years ago off topic posts were pretty much frowned upon here.

Grandms thanks for reposting this for all to see.

Just an aside to DA's quote, it should have read " I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant. It was Giant and not a Bear

Gene,

Though it doesn't really matter as I disclaimed the accuracy and focused on the point, I have since read and viewed on television an offering of bear, giant and tiger. Who knows? The point was made.

DA

I had to chuckle a little at Ken's apology for posting the article. 10 years ago off topic posts were pretty much frowned upon here.
Yeah, a lot (too much, imho) was frowned upon by ole Spike-o.

Thanks for sharing grandms.

Sue