Range Hood FAQ + personal notes (updated 10/31/2007)
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Comments (33)If you are OK with the additional cleaning required for not going larger on the hood, that’s a personal lifestyle decision. A home kitchen doesn’t produce the same amount of effluent on a continual basis that a restaurant does. Your home kitchen might take two weeks to produce as much grease and steam to clean as a restaurant kitchen would produce in a day. It depends on what you cook, and how frequently, as well as the BTU of the burners doing the cooking. More always requires more. But make no mistake that going the same size hood on ventilation does increase your cleaning needs. It’s unavoidable. It’s physics. Grease and time is the enemy for modern cabinet finishes, even conversion varnishes. That is why finishes degrade first around handles. It’s the hand oils making contact with the cabinet surfaces. Scrubbing with water and Murphy’s isn’t the answer to that either. Yes, you need to clean and degrease the kitchen surfaces. But water and chemicals are also the enemy of cabinet finishes. Murphy’s needs to have a world wide ban. It’s gummed up more floors and cabinets than the grease deposits have. Anything oil based needs to be banned from your home. A simple gentle degreasing detergent like Dawn with clean white rags should do the job if you do it frequently enough. ALWAYS rinse detergents! Cleaning product residues and excessive water are also bad for your cabinets. Grease hardens into a sticky shell that’s virtually unremovable if cleaning isn’t done frequently enough. That’s how your cast iron pan gets seasoned. You want that in a skillet. Not on your cabinet doors next to the range. Be mindful of ALL of the downstream consequences of even “minor” kitchen design decisions. They aren’t so minor. They impact your behavior and enjoyment of your space for a very long time. Sometimes it’s difficult to even gather all of the information needed to understand the consequences of seeming to you trivial choices. Sometimes you don’t know enough to even know what to ask. It’s always more complex than you think when dealing with codes, background science, and human behavior. It’s always best to enlist people with more experience and knowledge to help you with the hundreds of decisions like this....See More2023 Range Hood Advice
Comments (3)Well, that is a deep subject that has been attacked here from many directions over a long period of time. Reading related material here will help set perspective. Before commenting, here are some reference links. https://www.tagengineering.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/KVSApplDesign_catalog.pdf https://bamasotan.us/range-exhaust-hood-faq/ https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2328297/range-hood-faq-personal-notes-updated-10-31-2007#n=20 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2324336/vent-hoods-and-noise-the-real-scoop-on-vah https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5161173/hood-faq#n=101 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6099827/exhaust-hood-faq-ii#n=113 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6040827/range-hood-noise-project I think you will get a bit less high frequency blade tip turbulence noise with the blower outside, but without a silencer the difference will be small. A silencer could be installed in an exterior chase leading either to a "down-wall" (down-roof) blower such as Wolf and Broan make, or some type of down-blast or up-blast blower at the chase top. available from commercial ventilation suppliers, or an axial (Fantech) type in-line blower could be in the chase leading to some type of top or side cap. Note that some die-hards have put chases inside bedrooms or bedroom closets to get the ducting to the aittic and roof. My attic is over my kitchen so I did not have to do that. I would, however for your case argue for any scheme allowing the silencer to be adopted. Fantech and I think Broan/NuTone/Best have MUA systems that may work. More commercial units such as @opaone adopted -- Accurex I think; see his bamasotan link -- may also be available. The need for a blower enhanced ("active") MUA may not be needed if you have no combustion appliances taking air connected to the kitchen. This allows a "passive" (no blower) scheme to work if the duct is large enough. Last, mostly for city apartments, there is the VaH ARS, which recirculates the air through a bank of filters. No MUA is needed with recirculation. Information on that can be found here: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2347276/vent-a-hood-ductless-ars-range-hood-update#n=181...See More36" Bluestar Hood Advice
Comments (6)Some factoids. Canopy wall hoods with typically 18-inch height should all have room for a rear duct attachment, but may not be fitted with one, and once one gets to 10 inch duct one is starting to interfere with baffle space. Straight up and then curved is best. Wolf hoods are sold separate from blowers, I believe (download a copy of the Wolf Design Guide). I don't know about BlueStar. Fantech silencers are about 4 inches larger in diameter than the duct. See image. Your hood intake velocity should be at least 90 ft/min, requiring 90 CFM/sq. ft. So if the hood entry area is 6 sq. ft., you need 540 CFM (actual). Rated CFM should be about 1.5X this value or about 800 CFM. This assumes modest duct pressure loss plus hood baffle pressure loss. For long ducts with a few right angle turns, maybe a bit more for rated CFM. 1000 should be plenty. However, this assumes that you will be supplying make up air at a pressure loss that is a small fraction of the blower's cut-off pressure loss. See MUA threads. BlueStar ex Abbaka should have fan curves available. Here is older data: As may be seen from the table, more than 1 inch of pressure loss for the HYEX-1.0 will reduce actual flow below that desired. So, once the actual flow is estimated, then duct diameter should be such that full speed flow velocity in the duct is between 1000 and 2000 ft/min. You may notice that this is recursive because changing the duct changes the pressure loss. Some hood threads to be reviewed: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2328297/range-hood-faq-personal-notes-updated-10-31-2007#n=20 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5161173/hood-faq#n=101 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6099827/exhaust-hood-faq-ii#n=113 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6040827/range-hood-noise-project Last advice for now: Do not design the hood system without designing the MUA system in parallel....See MoreMix and Match Vent Hood and inline blowers?
Comments (5)Here is a start: (read the first dozen or so pages so you will understand your goal.) https://www.tagengineering.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/KVSApplDesign_catalog.pdf From our forum's @opaone https://bamasotan.us/range-exhaust-hood-faq/ https://bamasotan.us/griddle-faq/ https://bamasotan.us/2020/12/the-kitchen/ stabs at FAQs https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2328297/range-hood-faq-personal-notes-updated-10-31-2007#n=20 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5161173/hood-faq#n=101 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6099827/exhaust-hood-faq-ii#n=113 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6040827/range-hood-noise-project from our @clinresga https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2324336/vent-hoods-and-noise-the-real-scoop-on-vah https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6417748/hood-depth-question#n=10 Some MUA https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5888450/seeking-muas-advice#28657635 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6078111/cost-to-add-a-make-up-air-system-for-kitchen#n=65 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6184577/need-advice-800-cfm-range-hood-and-make-up-air#28926574 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6128658/vent-hood-duct-size-gauges-material-and-make-up-air#n=19 Specific MUA safety related: Heating systems with fan-powered exhaust systems can withstand higher negative pressures than natural-draft appliances. Some types of fan-powered systems are much better than others, however. In order of effectiveness, the choices are: * Sealed-combustion. Also called “direct vent,” these appliances draw all combustion and dilution air from outside. These can typically tolerate negative pressures in the range from 25 to 50 Pa. * Power-vented. These draw their makeup air from indoors and are also called fan-assisted, forced-draft, or mechanical-draft. These can typically tolerate up to 15 to 20 Pa of negative pressure. * Induced-draft. These have a small fan added for energy performance, not to overcome house depressurization. These can typically tolerate 5 to 15 Pa of negative pressure. By comparison, an atmospherically vented furnace can back-draft with as little as 5 Pa of negative pressure, and a gas water heater will have spillage at 2 or 3 Pa. Fireplaces can start having problems at about 3 Pa. Canadian codes limit negative pressures in homes with atmospherically vented equipment to 5 Pa. U.S. codes do not currently address the issue (in a plainly spelled out "prescriptive" number). 1 pascal = 0.00402 inches, water column 1 atmosphere = 407 inches, w.c....See MoreRelated Professionals
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