Siding: LP Smartside, James Hardie, or something else?
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Exterior Siding Dilemma (James Hardie Arctic White vs. another option)
Comments (41)Would love to hear from anyone who used a white from the Hardie “dream collection”…I’m renovating a colonial and want a true white. The arctic white is very popular where I live and it definitely appears gray, especially next to white Azek trim and it’s not the e look I’m going for....See MoreJames Hardie Rustic Series by Woodtone? Transitional/rustic New build
Comments (11)Thought I’d post an update. We decided to go with smooth hardy plank. I picked the stone: ElDorado York limestone. I wanted the stone that was in the linked picture up above but I can’t find anything like it in the manufactured stone options, and I have heard real stone costs so much more money so I was trying to stick to the less expensive manufactured stone . Anyway, here is what I am trying to decide between now. We decided to have our trim color Matched to our brown windows, and the only issue with that is that we found there are a lot of pinkish purple tones to the brown of our windows so it limits the paint colors we can choose for the body of the house. I wanted a darker, warmer color, but that is difficult with this specific trim color. My favorite colors so far were Benjamin Moore Kingsport gray, and Sherman Williams warm stone. My designer friend told me they both had too much gold in them, and not enough contrast for the trim color. She pointed me towards Sherwin Williams Keystone gray or Benjamin Moore elephant gray. Both were too llight for me. . I liked the Keystone gray better because it had more gold in it than elephant ear, but wanted it a little darker so I had them darken the Keystone gray to 125% (25% darker) and 150%. (50% darker) ( they left out the extra white when they did that ) Anyway, that’s where we are at. I think I have it narrowed down between 2 of them... the Keystone gray 125% (=25% darker) and 150% (50% darker). my designer friend still likes the original Keystone Gray (one on the right) because she says it gets too golden when it gets darker. I know these pictures won’t be very accurate because the white balance keeps changing depending on what light is hitting it. Here are pictures… from left to right looking at the picture is Benjamin Moore Kingsport gray (she says it's too golden for the tones in the trim), then Sherman Williams keystone gray 150% (50% darker), then 125% (25% darker) then just regular keystone gray on the right which is too light for me. Designer friend likes the lightest one on the right because she likes a lot of contrast between the trim and the body color but I don’t really like a lot of contrast since I like the look of stained wood. In the next few pictures, I have them labeled. BM equals Benjamin Moore Kingsport gray (which designer friend says is too dark and golden), then: 50 equals keystone gray 150% (50% darker), 25 equals keystone gray 125% ( 25% darker ), and then “ - “ equals regular Keystone Gray with no darkening. This next pic is Benjamin Moore Kingsport gray on the top, then the next two down are SW keystone grey 150% (50% darker), then the bottom two are SW keystone grey 125% (25% darker). And I forgot to label this one but the top and the very bottom are keystone gray, the next two in are 125% (25% darker), then the very middle one is 150% (50% darker). I did not paint the Benjamin Moore Kingsport gray on this wall. They All look very different depending on the light and the time of the day. And then just a couple of updated pictures: I don't like how the deck turned out but that's a whole different story. I wanted a darker brownish less orange tone... I would have picked a different darker wood with clear stain. That's what I get when I leave a decision up to the hubby. Kinda like the rough cedar trim hubby decided on to put around all the windows/doors/belly bands vs. having smooth hardi like I would have wanted if he would have asked me LOL. By the time I realized it, 3/4 of the trim was done and I couldn't ask to have it changed. Oh well. Worse things could have happened....See MoreHelp! Cost to upgrade vinyl to fiber cement/lp smartside/everlast
Comments (20)Sorry, but absurd. Fiber cement siding only runs about 30-35% more than vinyl in materials and from an installation standpoint it is NOT harder. Only siding contractors who are not accustomed to working with fiber cement siding say it is more labor intensive to install. In reality, siding teams that are used to doing fiber cement and have the proper tools like power shears etc. at their disposal can knock that stuff out incredibly fast. There's no j-trim to mess around with, its prefinished, and most brands have proprietary flashing at the siding joints that is easier and faster than lapping vinyl and hand cutting weep holes, and the waterproofing and flashing around window and door penetrations is about the same as vinyl. The siding industry has become so dependent on vinyl that a lot of builders give you a giant upcharge on other products because frankly they just don't want to screw around with it. Vinyl siding is garbage. Do whatever it takes not to have it IMO....See MoreLp smartside just being installed. Looks bad.
Comments (17)Not looking to be labelled as a nit picker, but what you show is not house wrap, but rather, Zip sheathing which has an integral weather resistive barrier (WRB.) I've used the product and I like it. It should perform well in your application. My concern is that LP's technical bulletin on installing LP Smart Side vertical siding specifically requires installation over a non-compressible, drainable house wrap. While sheathing with an integrated WRB should perform equally well, if not better, I wonder if not using a true house wrap would enable the manufacturer to wiggle out of warranty coverage in the event there is a warranty claim....See Morejoyce_6333
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