Well, I would have been totally fine with the Insinkerator flange, lettering and all, but the one above was cheaper. Some webstores charge as much as $75 for the Insinkerator flange! Hi Karen! I guess we're getting close? Demo starts on Monday, appliances are all ordered except my ovens (waiting for the new model to come out), new doors and windows will be delivered soon, cabinets ship in 2 weeks. I'll be spending the weekend emptying all my cabinets and moving furniture. They're taking down all the dry wall from the ceilings in the kitchen, dining room and family room and knocking down a wall, so I expect a huge mess. I still haven't chosen faucets, prep sink or lighting, and haven't yet found a fabricator for the stainless steel countertops. I don't even want to begin to think about what I'm doing for a backsplash. I have the feeling I'll be forced into making some quick decisions soon after demolition begins. I hope you and your DH and your little ones had a wonderful holiday! How are your design classes going? Erika

just wanted to commiserate with you on the plumbing problems. We have an old house were the plumbing was added later. They dug under one end of the house about 10x10 with an exterior entrance, and all the plumbing was put on that corner. We wanted to put in a bathroom closer to the bedrooms and move the kitchen, so we had to run the pipes under what would be the new bathroom floor. Kitchen sink had to be installed on the same wall as the bathroom sink, with the pipes and drain/venting going through the wall into the bathroom cabinet, then down into the floor. As it was, the distance was almost too long for the drop and to still be able to hook up to the outgoing line. That would have required a lift pump in the cellar, not something we wanted to consider. This is the bathroom side of the wall. If we ever have problems, our cheapest solution will be to hand dig a trench under the bathroom to access the pipes. Hope that never happens. I don't think we would have room for a garbage disposal either, as the drain goes into the wall and then down. Since we have a septic system, doing without a disposal was not a hard choice.

Definitely make sure a sink that large leaves room for everything else you will want on that run of cabinets. I had planned on getting one that big, but then I wouldn’t have room for a vertical sheet pan cupboard next to the dishwasher. Also I am firmly on team ”no grid.” I am baffled how anyone could possibly like having one of those. It’s in our rental now where we’re living during the remodel, and it’s the scourge of my existence. I don’t know if some people just don’t use their garbage disposals as much? But strands of spaghetti and salad and everything else getting caught in the grates is gross to deal with. Plus underneath gets all gunky and stained rather quickly.

" Today when they installed our countertops they said that the sink was pushed too far into the cabinets and was supposed to stick out further than the lip of the countertops." They are wrong. On a self-rimming sink, the back of the apron kisses the cabinet front. Period. If the top sticks out past the sink, have them clip or round the protruding corner; it will look fine. If the tops have been installed, they'll have to recut, profile, and polish the rear of the cutout to get the proper reveal which should be slightly positive as shown. The sink or the countertop will have to be pulled for that to happen. Let's hope the faucet holes haven't yet been drilled or they may have to be filled or the rear rail replaced. The cabinet is cut correctly. If the cabinet wasn't relieved as shown, the radius at the sink flange/apron wouldn't allow the rear of the apron to touch the cabinet front.