Lacanche vs. Wolf AG Range - 'Hotness' & Other Considerations
jmcgowan
12 years ago
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Comments (3)I have a Wolf AG range. I like the burners on the AG, and I like having the ability to remove the burner pans for cleaning if/when I want. For smaller cleaning, I'll spot clean using paper towel and Perfect Kitchen (blue bottle) from BB&B. It was recommended at the Wolf showroom in NJ. They don't seem to carry all the "Perfect" cleaning products in all the BB&B's (they make Perfect granite, Perfect Bathroom, etc.) so you might need to look for it. For a more thorough cleaning, I remove the grates and the burner pans and scrub them in the sink. I don't always clean the grates when I clean the pans as they don't always need cleaning. The pans I can clean pretty quickly using a blue scrub sponge, a small squirt of dish soap, and a sprinkle or more of BKF. If the pans are really grimy, or have caked/burnt on crud, I'll spray them with Dawn Power Dissolver and let them sit for awhile before scrubbing (don't let it drip on HW flooring though, it eats through the poly, as does Easy Off, I think). I like that I can scrub the burner pans in the sink and then rinse them off with the spray, rather than trying to rinse/clean off soap and cleansers when they are attached to the range. I dry the pans while they are still "hot" after rinsing using a dishtowel (FYI, I use Ritz Wonder Towels--they absorb a lot of water, continue to dry things even when very damp, and don't leave lint behind). If there are any smudges after you've replaced them on the range, you can buff/wipe them off with a dry microfiber, dishtowel or paper towel if they bug you. I promise you, it sounds more complicated and time-consuming than it really is. Yes, more time than cleaning the old white 4 burner rangetop we had before, but the trade-offs are still well worth it! Also, after you've done it a few times, you get youre "routine" down and it goes pretty quickly. For the record; I am far from "Sally clean" and I certainly don't clean my range every day (or even every week, though some weeks I should!). I'd go with the AG burners again in a heartbeat....See MoreHow hot do Bluestar/Wolf ranges get?
Comments (11)" Posted by deeageaux DCS is actually one of the better ones. Don't know if you have a lemon or an oven door that was assembled incorrectly. Bluestar will have one of the largest interiors but have the hottest or one of the hottest oven doors on the market. Wolf is near the top. From my experience and from what I a have read Capital has the coolest oven door, maybe there are others that match it or beat it but have not read so in credible source." What is your "credible source" for this ranking? Please post. "There used to be a dealer that did test and published data on this very subject but Bluestar used high powered lawyers to bully him into removing his data from his website." Do you have proof for this accusation? Trevor Lawson of Eurostoves has this on his website under "test data" comparing the CC and BS now but most thinking people would not consider "data" provided by a competitor to be unbiased especially if you have any knowledge about how scientific testing is done. This becomes more evident as you look at how the other "tests" are set up and presented. There have been complaints on this forum about the door being hot on the BS. There have been some things written saying that BS fixed the hot door but a poster here that had an older one and a new one thought the new one had a hotter door. BlueStar review On the Wolf, it may depend on if you are talking about the AG or the DF. I think there have been a couple of complaints about the AG, but others who had it seemed to think there was something wrong with it. Maybe an actual owner will comment about the AG. I have the Wolf DF and the doors and surrounds stay very cool. We have grandkids(toddlers) running around and while I believe in teaching them to stay away from "hot" and they are watched closely, it is wonderful to have the peace of mind that a cool door is one less hazard. Even after running a couple of hours the door is cool and the only part even warm at all is at the bottom. I couldn't find any place even hot, let alone uncomfortably hot....See MorePros/Cons of AG vs DF Wolf in my configuration
Comments (16)Ha! We would be empty nesters but...we have had a few extras in the way of nieces and nephews and friends living with us due to transitions in their lives and now my son is back to town from school and looking for a job. In July we had a full house between semi-permanent guests and short term guests. I also cook meals that go out to my dad and sometimes others. When I watch the grandkids, I try to have dinner when the parents return so they don't have to cook. All this means I am generally cooking for 10--rarely just 2. If it is just the two of us, sometimes we just eat out :-))(date night!). I do use my wall oven the most but I am so glad to have the range oven and there are times that I almost could use another oven, more for a different temperature than capacity. On the other hand, I cooked for all these years with a 30 inch oven. The key for me to look effortless is having things made ahead. We have had "flying plates" dinners for 35, that consist of multiple mini courses that come out one after the other. Everything is premade on half sheets and the ovens got a workout for that. It seems like the family gatherings just get bigger- weddings and babies. Our extended family can be 30-40 and we have several parties a year for 60 or so. I also have had many wedding and baby showers, milestone birthdays and funeral dinners that range from 35-70 people. We also had rehearsal dinners but semi catered them. We didn't go with a warming drawer because the ovens go low enough to function that way and sometimes I use the rangetop. We had large disposable catering trays of pasta for a family dinner a few months ago and they kept warm on the simmer burners without scorching. I think one of the benefits of the warming drawer is that it keeps the humidity in the food so with the steam oven, you might not need it. If you haven't had convection, I think you will love it but it isn't for everything. I look at it as a tool and only use it when it will be a benefit to what I am cooking. I am still learning about it. I think your modes on the steam oven are different than on the regular oven. There is a slow roast vs a roast and convection roast. I would read the use and care manuals on all the appliances to better understand how they work. I don't agree with all of Wolf's recommendations for convection baking though. Convection is not the optimum thing for cakes or anything that needs to rise at least in the first part of the cooking cycle....See More36" Range w/ griddle: Capital vs. Wolf vs. Thermador
Comments (7)My home is under construction so I am not yet using my appliance choices. I am going with Blue Star. I have never used Capital so I can not comment on that. I have had the Wolf cook top and wall ovens, viking range and thermador range in past homes. Of those I would say that Wolf AND Viking were equal. However, Wolf is having issues with the interior ovens cracking, I am sure you have read all that. Viking is just making a comeback so who knows. I did have to open the Wolf oven to turn my food for even cooking. The Wolf cook top is not that powerful. I think with Wolf in particular you are paying for the name. It lacks power. It is pretty, and you will get the best service. So if that is the most important thing for you then Wolf is your best bet. Thermador was a very big disappointment for me. The oven cooked unevenly and the griddle took a life time to get hot and never actually did get hot enough to enjoy cooking on it. The Viking was a work horse and eventually had issue with the screws on t the door. Not a big deal. I know they had issues with this but it really was not a big deal. After I had mine the company sort of went down hill and got a bad name. I am going with Blue Star Platinum range top and the new electric wall ovens. I want the the open burner. (personal preference) For me, I also want the 25K BTU burner for wok cooking. It does offer a true simmer. I will be able to throw the griddle on where I want and getting hot enough is not going to be an issue with the high power burners. I am not a trained chef but I love to cook and do A LOT of it. I have not heard any feed back on users of the new BS electric wall ovens but I like that it has a pizza stone in the bottom. I am hopeful that this feature will prove to be wonderfully useful with pizza and rustic breads. It fits a full sheet pan and has 5,000 watt Infrared broiler. My top priority was a wall oven with French Doors. I think I found an oven that had even more than I was hoping for. All in all, just consider what is your number one most important thing to have and go from there. Then just consider how you cook and what you really need or want. You will find comments positive and negative on everything. Wolf will give the best service, or so everyone says. If that is the most important thing for you then just prioritize the other things on your list and see what you are left with. Coming to my decisions were gut wrenching for me. I changed my mind what seemed like a 100 times. I finally figured out what was important to ME besides the french doors. Once you really consider how you work in the kitchen one should start to rise to the top. Trust your instincts....See Moresayde
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