Thanks much folks for all the timely input. If it gets really bad again, I may try using the diluted herbal solution systemically again, but only on some of the pots (they're in really large terracotta pots), so that I can see if that was the cause of the grassy taste. Now I'm also thinking more about trying floating row covers first. Maybe I could locate some inexpensive mosquito netting or fine mesh fishing netting, for even when the plants get really big. I don't mind hand-pollinating (it was easy and enjoyable with a watercolor brush), although after a few days the honeybees sure had a big carnival each dawn during the previous, initial trial. It was fun to watch and listen to them each morning. Hmm, squish the leaf at *just* where the larvae is (not removing the whole leaf as some guides instruct)- that's a good thing to try, too. The larvae's dayglo orange is pretty easy to see through the leaf, and it's not like they can take quick evasive action. Hee-hee. Good thing I'm not vegan anymore. Squish. I dream of sweet zucchini. Thanks again. MerryStem

Thanks midwestdave. I see zero burn on shedding needles here. If Iseli was aware of the compatibility of understock to scion it could be possible they'd be writing a different article-description. DavidV - the same does hold true when it is grafted to anything "other" than Pinus contorta. Bob's emphasized it clearly. The reason he uses seedlings of CJ of course is because of the closest prodigy of seedling and scion, but also because, he has stock plants coning freely. He figured out something of rare proportions whether thru luck/skill - it doesn't matter. It's a wonderful discovery, he's made. Of course mugo - or var. pumilla (used a lot for grafting dwarf/mini conifers in Europe) - or anything of dwarf understock-growth should not be used for long-term compatibility because the scion will soon outgrow the slower understock - creating an imcompatible union that will "snap off", failing later....Speed of the understock needs to be compatible to that of the scion for you others out there that may not know this or understand how to select seedling-understock choices when grafting. var. latifolia should be used for hardiness purposes -(Pinus contorta var. latifolia)..... I'll assume. One more tip - never graft Abies concolor to Abies fraseri. You'll be looking at 100% dead plants in about 10 years. Glad I could be of help. Dax

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