will insulating the roof keep intense sun heat out?
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Comments (5)Here is something that will even probably answer your question even better.. I have had 3 sunny days in the past 3 weeks..Yes, count them, only three! It has been raining, drizzling, and been stuck in the 60's a majority of this month, and yet my citrus are NOW as green as can be, and healthy..It is 58 today...July 19 and drizzling.. They are loaded with buds and fruit. NO sun! Just a few weeks ago, I was complaining they were yellowish, and even a lighter green than when I bought them when the sun was out everyday and they were all in FULL sun... Now I have no complaints...lol One of my ponderosa trees was blocked by sun from a rasberry bush that grew about 5 feet tall, loaded with big flowers and very green. A couple of days after sticking it in full sun, the flowers dried up and it turned a lighter green..NOW it is a darker green and loaded with big flowers again with all the clouds and rain.. Now, my grapefruit, that one has a mind of its own. It is most green in full sun and in all this crappy cloudy rainy weather, and in winter under lights..lol I thought I was the only one strange at times, so are my plants!! Here is the kicker, I havn't fed them for about 3 weeks now, and they are as green and as flowery as can be..lol!! Mike..:-)...See Morekeeping an un-insulated, unheated shed from freezing
Comments (10)The primary trigger for the onset of dormancy in F carica is decreasing photoperiod. Technically, it is increasing periods of darkness, but since that is always accompanied by decreasing photoperiod, we'll leave it at that. Dormancy deepens with chill, but figs pass through dormancy VERY quickly. They are dormant for short periods - like 100-200 chill units. The best temperatures for accumulating chill is from about 32-40* F. Below 32*, no chill units accumulate. After a short dormancy, they pass into a period of quiescence, during which they are capable of growth as soon as soil temperatures allow. You cannot keep trees in "deep" or "hard" dormancy unless you happen to find the trees in true dormancy and lower the temperatures below 32* so no chill units accumulate, so we can say with some sureness that we cannot keep trees dormant for long (only a few days), only in a quiescent state. We can guarantee quiescence by keeping the trees above killing low temperatures and below about 45*. After soils warm to 45*+, for more than a few days, the onset of growth will occur. I think it's probably unlikely that your trees would see killing lows in your zone and in the shed, unless the shed is so full of openings for the wind to penetrate that it affords little night protection. Here is some information about how cold affects soil and plant that I left on this forum a year ago. Perhaps you can apply some of it to your situation/conditions: "Commonly, each species of plant has a general range of cold-hardiness, but we know this does not apply to F. carica. Within species and cultivar, cold-hardiness is genetically determined. That is to say that a plant that is propagated from cuttings or tissue culture will have the same ability to resist cold as the parent plant. Plants cannot "develop" a greater degree of cold-hardiness by repeated or prolonged exposure to cold, even after 100 years (trees). If we pick any plant at random, it may or may not be able to withstand freezing temperatures. The determining factor is the plants ability to prevent freezing of bound water. Bound water is the water inside of cells. There are actually three kinds of water to consider when we discuss "freezing". The water held in soil - When this water freezes, and it can freeze the soil mass solid, it doesn't necessarily kill the plant or tissues. Then there is free or unbound water, also called inter-cellular water. This is water that is found in plant tissues, but is outside of living cells cells. This water can also freeze solid and not kill the plant. The final type of water is bound water or intra-cellular water. If temperatures drop low enough to freeze this water, the cell/tissue/plant dies. This is the freeze damage that kills plants. Fortunately, nature has an antifreeze. Even though temperatures drop well below freezing, all plants don't die. In hardy plants, physiological changes occur as temperatures drop. The plant moves solutes (sugars, salts, starches) into cells and moves water out of cells to inter-cellular spaces in tissues. These solutes act as antifreeze, allowing water in cells to remain liquid to sometimes extremely low temperatures. The above is a description of super-cooling in plants. Some plants even take advantage of another process to withstand very low temps called intra-cellular dehydration. The roots of your trees can stay frozen for extended periods or go through multiple freeze/thaw cycles w/o damage, so long as the temperature does not fall below that required to freeze intra-cellular water. If roots remain frozen, but temperatures remain above killing lows, dessication is the primary concern. If the tree is able to take up water, but temperatures are too low for the tree to grow and make food, stored energy becomes the critical issue. Dormant and quiescent trees are still using energy from their reserves (like a drain on a battery). If those reserves are depleted before the tree can produce photosynthesizing mass, the organism dies. There are a number of factors that have some affect on the cold-hardiness of individual plants, some of which are length of exposure to seasonal cold, water availability (drought stressed plants are more cold tolerant), how recently planted/repotted, etc." Al...See MoreIs heat or sun the problem?
Comments (27)It's work, but its work I like. The hardest thing is keeping it weeded. Once weed seeds get imported with new plants, they are there to stay. Sometimes I discover grace errors in plant selection as well, like the 20 foot Hong Kong Orchid tree (Bauhinia) I just dug out and removed this week...the size wasn't the problem, I could easily keep it pruned, but it became infested with mealybugs and I tried everything (I mean EVERYTHING) but I couldn;t get rid of them. Bayer Systemic for trees didn't work, Neem didn't work (the leaves of Bauhinia don't 'hold' moisture, it just slides off) Soap didn't work, Cygon, Orthene and Isotox didn;t work, and coffee didn't work. So out went this huge tree, in sections. There was enough root mass left to plant the tree in the yard though. It will grow here, I only had it in the greenhouse for effect by the streamhead. The speckled plant in photo #7 is a Neoregelia bromeliad, growing under the green and white variegated Philodendron. There are other spotted broms in photo #8, they are all Billbergias The pink flowers in #11 are from a small blooming Phalaenopsis orchid that is mounted on a log spanning the stream. This particular species Phal makes keikis (baby plants)on long stolons so it is slowly spreading in that while area....See Moreattic roof fan and insulation for flat-roofed rowhouse
Comments (15)Thanks guys. Let me see if I can provide a clearer picture of what I'm working with. The house is over 100 years old--a brick row house in the center of a block. Most walls and all the ceilings on the third floor are plaster, with lots of lumps and bumps and a few small cracks, but mostly solid. There are no ceiling moldings. To call what is above this floor an attic is a an exaggeration. It is a space that ranges from about 3 foot tall at the front of the house to about half that at the back of the house (roughly 40-feet on that floor...first and second floors have a bigger footprint and do not need insulating between living space and roof.) There is a central air (newish high-velocity, narrow tube) system that snakes around the "attic". The blower is installed at the one access point there had been. This system serves ONLY the third floor and has two outlets in each of three small bedrooms and one in the tiny bathroom. The system serving the first and second floors is in a second floor closet. The insulation guys tell me that they can blow insulation in but will need to cut at least one new mansized hole in the ceiling to get in--possibly two, one toward either end. There are no recessed lights on the floor, and only three overhead lights at all. All other lights are wall brackets, wired from the floor up, rather than from the ceiling down. Of the three overheads..one was put in new by me, so isn't K&T. One the previous owner says was moved by them, so isn't K&T (But may connect in to K&T at the meeting of wall and ceiling. And one is the bathroom overhead, which can easily be checked. My electrician replaced the fixture there, so he should know what's above it. The roof is asphalt and fairly new (say 5 years old?) so, I'm not inclined to want to replace it anytime soon. I've gotten a quote for $950 to cut an access whole and blow in insulation. I'd have to pay someone else separately to fix up the access panel afterwards, probably adding another few hundred. Most neighbors don't even try to do much of anything with ventilation in their "attics", as they are all scared witless of cutting holes in their roofs. But I have found info on the Brooklyn Brownstoner blog about successful attic and whole house fan installations and one neighbor loves the whole house fan he has which sits in a sort of plastic cove on the roof. Unfortunately, he bought it with the house and has no idea who installed it. I don't intend to move in the near future, or even the more distant future. But I would like to make the third floor more habitable in the summer, especially since at some point in the next two years or so, I'd like to turn it into a separate apartment and rent it. Honestly, I seem to be finding such conflicting information and I'm so dubious about how knowledgeable folks you hire to do this stuff are about old and "out of the norm" houses that I really, really, do appreciate any and all help I can get here on this forum. Thanks,...See Moremeldy_nva
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