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Construction Loan contract question - deposit required?
Comments (8)I have issues with the EXPLANATION your builder tried to give you regarding the 5% deposit he is asking you to pay to him. He says this provides the bank with extra security... HUH? How can your giving extra money to the builder possibly make the bank more secure???? Yes, banks want you to have skin in the game but I suspect that bank would much rather have that extra 5% of yours in a deposit account in their bank ready to pay out to builder once he has earned it than in builder's pocket before builder has even broken ground. And, it actually sounds like the 5% is going to have to come out of your loan amount rather than out of your pocket now. If so, what builder is actually asking for is a 5% draw from the bank before he ever does any work. NO WAY! The last thing banker's want is for builders to get any of bank's money BEFORE they earn it. Getting money upfront (before work is done) is how shyster builders operate. They are the ones who then disappear leaving you with a half-built house and not enough money left in the bank to finish it...which often forces the homeowner to walk away leaving bank owning the half-built home. If builder had said something like: "the 20% down is to purchase the land. You will then own it outright and I will give you the deed for it immediately. That means that, if you then decided you wanted to, you could walk away from me and go find someone else to build your house on the land. So I want an additional 5% deposit to ensure that you'll stay with me and let me build your house because otherwise I don't want to sell you the land." Well, that would have made sense and at least sounded honest. (That is, assuming the land without a house is actually worth that 20% and you could build the house you want for the remaining 80%.) But "pay me an additional 5% because it will give the bank more security" is, IMHO, pure flim-flam! And, if builder will attempt to flim-flam you at this point, he'll do the same thing repeatedly over-and-over again as the work progresses. Frankly, this is a red flag that should make you wonder if you even want to get into a contract with this guy at all. At the very least, ask your builder - in the presence of your banker - to explain to you EXACTLY how your putting more money into buider's pocket before he actually does any work for you is somehow going to make banker feel more secure. And then ask your banker if he agrees with builder's explanation....See MoreConstruction Loan contract question - deposit required?
Comments (5)A contract requires consideration to be valid. It can be as small as the $1 or $10 often used in deeds receipt of which is acknowledged in the deed. "I Joe Blah-blah hereby grant and convey to Frank Wats-his-name for $10 (receipt of which is hereby acknowledged) and other valuable considerations the land identified as ..." Has title to the land been conveyed to you? You should find a local RE attorney to look over everything and advise you. Builder's contracts are usually written by the builder's attorney to protect the builder, not the purchaser....See MoreNJ contract question - rock and water
Comments (3)What do you mean by not spelled out"? If you mean that he didn't itemize the dollars and cents cost of additional excavation, that's pretty standard since there's no way to really put a dollar sign on the cost unless and until they know the extent of rock/water. Our contract did say something to the effect that contract price did not include additional excavation fees d/t rock/water and that homeowner was responsible for any additional costs incurred -- which I think is a pretty standard clause. PB then told me a daily rate if additional excavation was req'd, and "worst case scenario" if we did hit rock. BTW, we did turn out to be worst-case scenario -- ended up spending about $20k over budget d/t rock and soil conditions, so be prepared!...See MoreContract question on fees after inspection for renovation
Comments (7)This appears to be another recent example of poor wording in a contract for it's intent. It is standard practice for any licensed contractor to be responsible for their trade meeting code, and you should insist the contract should say as much. Think about it, if the inspector is calling for something beyond code that is going to substantially affect the project cost or timeline, then the inspector should be challenged. If for some reason the G.C. doesn't want to play the game, then the owner should be brought in to understand the situation, and you make decisions from there. This would pertain to items that are already in the scope of the project as covered in the Construction Documents and specs. What it seems this clause is trying to cover is if the inspector goes beyond the scope listed in the Construction Documents, then that could be additional work not accounted for, so justifiable for a Change Order. As an example, say one side of a wall is gutted, and they replace old cloth sheathed wire for the kitchen. But there are a couple outlets for the bedroom on the other side of the wall that are now exposed from the kitchen side, and the inspector makes the electrician update those too. That would be an extra as you weren't doing anything in the bedroom and the G.C never included it in their bid it....See Morecarolyn53562
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