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Wolf cooktop burner 'explodes' when on simmer

waldo1
15 years ago

Anyone experienced this problem?

The large burner on our Wolf 36" 5-burner cooktop (Model No. CT 36 G/S) sometimes "explodes" (Woosh! Can lift a skillet off the burner) when on simmer. It's still under warranty and when the repair guys inspected it, they detected that the lip of the 12,000 burner was warped and was letting gas escape when it was on at the same time. They think gas may have wafted over to the large burner and would ignite after building up. It only happened when the large burner (15,000 Btu/br) is on simmer.

The repairmen replaced the lip on the smaller burner and we thought everything was solved. However, the other day, the large burner was on simmer. No other burners were on. Suddenly, fumes apparently ignited causing an "explosion" under the pan on the stove. As before, we could smell gas for a while afterwards.

It's never happened when the burner is on regular flame, between high and low; only when on simmer.

We've got a call in to the repair guys. But in the meantime, I'd be interested to know if anyone has experienced a similar problem with a Wolf or any other gas cooktop.

Thanks.

Comments (37)

  • klaa2
    15 years ago

    Another reason to switch to induction. Kitchen, gas and explosion are three words you do not want to hear in the same sentence. I've never experienced this when I used to have a gas range(a long time ago). I would be really cautious and turn the gas off entirely until it is serviced. Who knows? If the gas leaks overnight, simply turning on a light switch could be fatal. I know, I'm being paranoid, but my home burned down when I was a younger from aluminum wiring, so I've earned it. I hope you get that fixed quickly and I hope you keep a fire extinguisher in an easily accessible location in the kitchen (as everyone should).

  • mahatmacat1
    15 years ago

    That is *scary*! I will be waiting to hear from anyone else...I'm glad you're o.k. But really, that's scary. Gosh.

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  • waldo1
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    Got a call into the repair folks. Will let the forum know what they say.

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    I have a Wolf 36" gas cooktop model CT36 G/S -2 that explodes when using the large burner on simmer, Just found your posting and was wondering if you got yours fixed.

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    http://www.wolfappliance.com/GasCooktops/CT36GGasCooktop

    Wolf was emailed regarding it, and they were useless even though the cooktop was only a few months old. Their response: "Don't use it, call a service technician". Of course it can't be the cooktop's problem, it must be the installation, and the customer should pay for it. Uh huh.

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    But the problem eventually moved to other burners, but only when on very low (simmer) settings. Heck, this cook top's claim to fame is its heat range!

    The good news: the problem has been identified and it is NOT a leak in the plumbing or any other instalation problem.

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    Therefore I submit that it is a defect in design, and Wolf should replace or repair ALL these units before someone gets hurt and they have a legal problem as well as a sadly tarnished image.

    If were the Wolf representative that received my previous email, I would have sent a Wolf Factory Technician out immediately to investigate the problem. The publicity of these high end cook tops periodically exploding just can�t do them much good :-) Thy must be in denial: "it can't be our problem."

    Aside from that, I really like this gas cook top. No electric contrivence will ever compare to gas for cooking.

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  • Pamela8
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    Hi this has happened to my wife 3 times now. Her clothes were singed, and all the burners were blown off, with the control knobs. I have rang Wolf UK recently, and they just said that there must have been a blockage. The burners are debris free, so wasn't the reason why they have exploded.
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    Hi this has happened to my wife 3 times now. Her clothes were singed, and all the burners were blown off, with the control knobs. I have rang Wolf UK recently, and they just said that there must have been a blockage. The burners are debris free, so wasn't the reason why they have exploded.
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  • evwpro
    8 years ago

    Can anyone tell me if wolf paid for the repair and how you got them to pay for it. I have the exact same problem with my burners exploding. It scares the crap out of me and doesn't happen all the time but when it does...... I read one post on here referring to a faint gas smell when this happens.....yep....same thing. I have a repair person coming 1/18/2016. They will,also be looking at my wolf ventilation system --- ventilation works great but light never worked right. This "high end' crap is just that- crap! So disappointed.

  • Austin B
    8 years ago

    It seems you just need to add locktite to resolve it, right? That is probably easier than going through a technician.

  • luanns26
    8 years ago

    I have had the exact same exploding experience with my stovetop, which I purchased in 2005. The stove always did a fair amount of popping on some of the burners when they were on simmer, but I experienced a large explosion, with flying knobs & shifted grates, in late November 2015. The certified Wolf repair tech had to call Wolf to get advice on the problem. He reported that there were problems with worn gaskets from the hex bolts shifting over time, and that we could install the gasket repair kit for several hundred dollars. I was shocked that Wolf wouldn't cover this. I'm even more shocked now that I'm researching and finding all these posts about the same problem. An exploding stove is no small issue. I'll be calling Wolf today to insist that they cover the "fix".

  • sjhockeyfan325
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    Good luck with that - let us know how it turns out (or whether they politely inform you that they don't cover repairs on an 11-year old stovetop)

  • evwpro
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    So the repairs were completed 1/25/2016. They replaced all 4 'O' rings for each of the 4 burners. They replaced a couple others things as well. The total cost was $400-$500 U.S for the cooktop a lone. It works great at this point and should. So, when they were at my house 1/18 diagnosing the problem, I mentioned to the repair guy about what I found online. He looked at me dumbfounded as if to say 'so?' Don't get me wrong, he was great and he fixed all three of my appliances (a thousand dollar later) but offered no opinion other than 'nobody ever writes a good review' When I made the comment 'this high end stuff isn't worth it' he countered with 'everything breaks.' The repairman was from a wolf authorized repair company in Cleveland, OH. I know things wear and it is 'getting up there' in age but just never expect expensive things to break. I always joke and say 'when you remodel and have everything new, it all starts to break at the same time.' As for my wolf ventilation system, the lights weren't working. He had to completely replace the lights. Said over time they get gunked up with grease, etc.....I'm thinking 'uh, why isn't it built differently then?' And then I recall the Sears brand ventilation system I grew up with. Not only did it NEVER break but the darn lightbulb never seemed to burn out either. : )

  • luanns26
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    A followup to my earlier post. After a long conversation with Wolf, and moving up the chain of command with insistent but polite negotiation on my part, Wolf agreed to cover the repair costs for gasket replacement on my stove. Mission accomplished. I can't shake mild concern about another scary explosion, but the stove seems to be working better than ever, and I think over time I'll feel more at ease :)

  • hkwan
    8 years ago

    I am planning to purchase 48 "WOLF cooktop -propane ( since no gas line)-just wondering if this explosion issues are on "older" model or still happen on new model?

  • luanns26
    8 years ago

    response to hkwan: My "exploding" Wolf was an older model set up for propane, from a kitchen remodel in 2005. It would be interesting to learn if folks with newer models are reporting explosion problems!

  • ILoveRed
    8 years ago

    Are you folks talking about a cooktop, a range top or both?

  • hkwan
    8 years ago

    cooktop-I am planning to purchase the propane since no gas line. I was told to install Miele - I need a 6 inches clearance? Anyone knows if this is applied to all of the commercial cooktop?

  • Laurie Kimmel
    7 years ago

    This keeps happening to my cooktop. At least now I know that there is something to do about it.

  • Laurie Kimmel
    7 years ago

    I'm starting my journey today. An advocate is supposed to call me within 2 hours

  • Ric
    7 years ago

    Hi Laurie - Any update with this issue?

  • CaroLina Miceli
    6 years ago

    Yes, these reviews are very helpful. We had rice on simmer and we had this mini explosion. I will call Wolfe tomorrow.


  • hkwan
    6 years ago

    Luckily I decide to purchase 48 inch Mielle Range instead of Wolf cook top since we arrange our kitchen cabinet. Anyone has experience with Mele range?


  • mj kell
    3 years ago

    My Wolf cooktop exploded and lifted off the granite a few inches and then slammed down. I had been using simmer on the large burner. The gas company came and shut it down. How did you get Wolf to pay for the repairs? My unit is way out of warranty but I believe they are aware of the problem and have helped others resolve it. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

  • Austin Bozarth
    3 years ago

    Can you post pics? Also, I am just about to order a cooktop from them, so interested in your model and if you know why this occurred?

  • mj kell
    3 years ago

    The model is CT36G/S. It lifted off the granite countertop and fell back into the same place so it looks okay but it is not. Technician just said o-ring kit is needed to the tune of $600. Things can wear out but this is a safety issue. Will be another 2 weeks without a working stove. Good luck.

  • Daniel Kaplan
    3 years ago

    hi, the same thing just happened to me. i have CT36 installed in 2006. it has always "popped" when on simmer, but this weekend, it blew up, the cooktop lifted, the grates, burner caps and control knobs all blew off, some striking me in the chest. as of now, Wolff is paying for the diagnostic, but this is very sketchy that this can happen and when you ask them, they have no knowledge, yet this chain goes back 12 years. i would expect a new cooktop as i don't feel comfortable that this will ever be fixed based on what i see above.

  • Luca Quassiati
    3 years ago

    There Wolf cooktops are really a blast!


    Seriously, i would never consider using one after these reports. I have switched out appliances for much lesser safety problems...

  • Karen Grelson
    3 years ago

    This has happened to my 2006 Gas Wolf 5 burner cooktop 3 times over the past 6 months-simmer on large or medium burner and blammo! After reading these posts, I did tighten the brass nuts on all burners, they were all loose. I will call our Wolf dealer and see what is up as of today.

  • Wendy
    3 years ago

    The same thing is happening with my 30 inch Wolf gas cooktop. Terrifying noise! I guess I'll start the same process as everyone else and call Wolf.

  • Daniel Kaplan
    3 years ago

    check on the gaskets and the nuts, they all breakdown/loosen.

  • Wendy
    3 years ago

    The Wolf repair guy was here. It is a known problem to the manufacturer. He called Wolf Sub Zero. It exploded while on simmer a few minutes after he turned it on. Supposedly they have changed the design on the new ones. So including today's visit it will be a $900 repair. Something is bent and it needs new gaskets from the repair kit. I would switch to the highly rated 5 Burner Samsung but there is a piece that sticks out so it won't fit. New Wolf cooktops are back ordered until the end of April around here.

    Has anyone in this group explored a class action suit? Wolf Sub Zero prides itself on reliability.

  • Daniel Kaplan
    3 years ago

    i would reach out to them directly. i had the same issue. push them to cover repairs at minimum or a new one which seems much better (i waited 2 1/2 months due to backlog). slow process but they were good about it. also consider reporting to the CPSC.gov as there are a few already there and the more the better for your case.

  • User
    3 years ago

    I am looking at the 24” 3-burner Wolf gas cooktop. Anyone recent buyers of their gas cooktops want to share their experience? These reports are most concerning, and Wolf should have addressed the problem 10 years later — hopefully....