Does anyone know anything about a kitchenaid superba bbq? x-posted on kitchen (where I can usually be found) and appliance fora

IIRC that Dacor runs about $2800-$3000 and does not have a self-cleaning oven. If you've searched here on Dacor stoves, you don't need me to tell you that the reviews are mixed and anumbers of the negative reviews have been about the electronics. That Kitchenaid does have self-cleaning and may be a lot like the Superba you are replacing. I looked at this model last fall when I was stove shopping. Seems to me it was more expensive back then, around $2400. I see AJMadison has it listed now for abot $2,050. IIRC, this stove has a triple tier 15k-btu-hr burner which can be useful with boiling water in larger pots. The other burners were standard capped-ring styles which were 12k and two 6k burners. I passed on this KA because of some personal preferences. Let me emphasize that these are personal preferences. One of them is that I wanted to have both larger burners up front, while this one has the 15k burner at the left front with the 12k burner at the right rear. Second, for the way I cook and what I cook with, a 6k simmer burner would not get used much, and this stove has two of them. Third, Kitchenaid and Whirlpool have had a surprising rate of circuitboard/oven controller failures and shutdowns from self-cleaning operations. Do a search. I had the impression that the company had made some design changes in 2012 -- mostly adding a bigger circuit board cooling fan --- that was supposed to have fixed the problem, but I was not sure that had happened with the models I was looking at back then. Might want to research that. Have you looked at the GE Cafe gas stoves. They are slide-in style stoves without the cooktop which overhangs the countertops (which is how most slide-ins come these days.) Models CGS975, 985 and 990. The first is similar in design to the KA with a few more features including a fifth griddle burner (which some like and some don't) and the option for locking out the control knobs (might be handy if toddlers are running around the kitchen. The oven is bigger, as well. The CGS985 turns the warming drawer into a "baking drawer." (It's basically like a 120v countertop toaster oven that has been shoehorned into a warming drawer at the bottom of the stove. The CGS990 gives you two fully functional gas ovens. If you can/will consider pro-style gas stoves, have a look at the Blue Star RCS ($3500) and the NXR ($2000). Neither have self-cleaning ovens. The BS has open burners, a heavier duty construction, and a large following here at GW so you can find all kinds of info on them. The NXR is a very nice stove for $2k, which makes it currently the least expensive pro-style range available in the US. As you doubtless know, it too has a following here at GW. Both stoves can be adapted for use as a slide-in. One possible downside is that the NXR is almost 30" wide where most slide-ins are 29 7/8" wide. Might or might not make a difference to your installation, but something to consider. This post was edited by JWVideo on Tue, Apr 9, 13 at 16:26

I have had this oven in our house for 10 years. Only problem we have is one in a while the sensor tells you to remove the probe, even though it has never been in. sometimes you can clear it, sometimes you have to throw the circuit breaker. Other than that works fine. Upgrading kitchen and replacing with Electrolux stainless double ove. You should be able to find out how old by the serial number.

First, I'd recommend *against* adjusting it. KA toploaders have large fins on the agitator skirt and the water level is engineered to accomodate that. Lowering the level will cause excessive splashing and small loads may not circulate properly. That being said, assuming the machine has a "traditional" mechanical water level pressure switch with an adjustment screw, open up the control panel and *loosen* the adjustment screw. *More* pressure on the switch diaphram (tighter screw position) raises the water level, *less* pressure lowers the level. Try only a small adjustment at a time, and drain the machine completely between each fill to test until you get the results you want. Be aware that the adjustment screw may have a factory seal on it so it'll be obvious if you've tampered with it ... but at 18 months your machine is probably no longer covered by the factory warranty .... unless you have an extended warranty or maintenance contract on it. Be aware also that adjusting the pressure switch will affect BOTH the highest and lowest level and everything in between. You may get a lower level more to your liking, but the HIGH level also will be lower.