Three Day Flood Tests - Kerdi or Hydro Ban
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Comments (31)John - are you passing on the $200 labor savings to the customer? I doubt it as you'd still be working for wages and it'd be unusual for someone with that mentality to garner the knowledge you have. Most setters are going to charge a set "fee" for a shower pan or per sq. foot of tile. If they do it faster they pocket more, if slower they make less. Just the business. Not a lot of TQM studies in the trades. So for the consumer, it's just not a selling point. Cheaper material cost is something they get behind frequently. Another problem I have , more of a reservation with these products is they are not "time tested" like 20 years real world tested like a mud job over tar paper. Don't get me wrong , I like these things, spec and use them all ( except the Laticrete) , just have that little feeling in the back of the mind like: Am I going to be the guy that touted polybutylene or GP siding. Those were "the latest and greatest" until they weren't 20 years later. Another thing consumers need to be aware of with the liquid applied membranes is that strict thickness guidelines need to be followed for them to work and I rarely see enough of the stuff applied in the field by mechanics. Another issue of concern is with hybrid methods. I'm sure you guys are all upstanding and care about you rep, but you are providing the warranty in these systems as the manuf. will only step up if you use the complete system. That's fine as long as the end user is aware of this....See MoreKerdi shower system
Comments (20)Bill is the fabric needed? I thought it wasn't. We tape'd the corners with stucco mesh / drywall mesh and speed set and these last two bathrooms have been boarded with Denshield. We board with construction adhesive and screws then tape our seems and fill the screw heads with a touch of speedset. The next day the installation is a tank and we Hydro Ban. The next day we give it a second coat and let it dry out for a few hours while we work on the cut list and any polishing or millwork needed for the install. We have build many showers before this way and have had great success. Am I missing something? I viewed the spec sheet at Laticrete and it doesn't mention the use of fabric - on the contrary it says it's not needed. Here is a link that might be useful: Hydro Ban Spec Sheet...See MoreKerdi Tray and Hydroban
Comments (8)Second question first: If you use the tray, the slope will be properly pitched to the drain...so no issues there as long as you get your plumbing in place. It might make sense to have the shower head at the same end of the tray as the drain. As to your first question, I've never done what you're proposing...but my first thought would be to skim coat the entire tray with thinset, filling the depressions. Do that as you set the drain. Then the next day, after the thinset has cured, hydroban the whole shebang. Personally, I would not want a thousand mini depressions or "birdbaths" between my tile and the membrane. That's why I advocate filling the tray depressions with thinset. But don't take that as gospel, this type of hybrid installation is not my forte. Bill's a laticrete guy, and Shaughnn's pinky finger know more about tiling than I do, perhaps they'll chime in. Laticrete seems up on the HydroBan/Kerdi drain thing, but I dont know if they have any ideas about it with a Kerdi tray. You could always fire off a call to Schluter's tech department....See MoreHow solid are the Laticrete Hydro Ban Pre-formed Shower Pans
Comments (19)I finally finished this project and would like to share a few lessons learned, if anyone is interested: 1. Looking back, I decided to go with a deck mud shower pan instead of the preformed Laticrete one. It was pretty much a cost consideration at the time. I am a bit of a perfectionist and the biggest hangup I have with the job I did is how the shower pan turned out. I struggled getting it right and in the end, it just seems like I have too much slope in most areas and not enough in some. The preformed pan would have helped me there. Given the cost of the overall project, the extra cost for the Hydro Ban shower pan would have been nothing to even think about. 2. I spent much of my life over the last two months after work on this project and grew in appreciation for you pros who do it everyday. Not only is it a very physical job, I could never make money at it without charging crazy money. My hat's off to you folks. 3. Much appreciation is sent to the pros that give us DIYers the confidence we need to get over what would stop most. Your input is invaluable. I will attach a pic of the finished product so that Mongo can take a little credit for helping me get through this one. Thanks for the help! Jeff...See MoreRelated Professionals
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