Panasonic whisper quiet fan not quiet anyone know why?
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Comments (6)We have a fantech ERV. It is designed to capture the heat before exhausting the house air and using it to pre warm the incoming air (or the reverse in the summer). We use it to vent the baths as required by code. It sits in our attic hanging off of chains and the only time we hear it is if it's running while we are in the attic...otherwise it's silent. Yet we can set it to refresh the air in the entire house in 3 hrs....See MorePanasonic WhisperGreen fans - explain how they work!
Comments (2)Some of the fans are simple on/off fans controlled by a switch. But the fans do have a constant CFM feature. ie, if your wall damper is stuck partially open, the fan will run at a higher RPM to move the same amount of air if the vent had no obstruction at all. The next level up of fans can run full time at a low baseline CFM to constantly move a small volume of air. That baseline can also be set to "zero", which essentially turns the fan OFF. When the switch is actuated ON, the fan then ramps up from the baseline setting to a higher moisture removal CFM rating. It stays at that higher rating while the switch is in the ON position. When the switch is moved to the OFF position, it continues to run on the high CFM setting for a specified amount of time, then the fan ramps back down to the lower CFM setting. Or the fan turns OFF is the lower constant run setting is set to ZERO. I actually prefer the shower fan and shower light to be on the same switch. When the shower light is turned on both the light and the fan turn on. When the shower light is turned off, the light turns off but the fan continues to run for a set amount of time. Hope that makes sense. That is my understanding of the fans....See MorePanasonic whisper fan
Comments (7)Karena, Panasonic mades a boatload of different models of fans. Why would this decision be easier than anything else in remodeling? ;) Here's a link to Panasonic's web site showing the different models. There are ones with and without heater, with and without night lights, with and without motion sensors, and with different power fans for different sizes rooms. You want to get the proper power fan -- measured in CFM, or cubic feet per minute of air they move -- for your bathroom. An 80 CFM unit is for a small bathroom up to about 80 square feet; a 110 CFM unit is slightly more powerful for a slightly larger room (or one with a ceiling higher than 8'). For a larger bathroom (over 120 square feet), you'll probably want a larger model. Here's a link to a room size-to-CFM calculator. Depending which fan you select you may need two up to four switches. A basic fan and light requires two, although they could be combined. A heater is a separate switch, as is a nightlight. (You can buy switches which combine two switches in the space of one normal switch, so you only need a single or double-gang box on your wall, instead of a triple or quad.) In terms of a timer for the fan, several companies make them. I've purchased ones from Lutron, which allow you to set the fan shut off after as little as 5 or as much as 60 minutes. That's the Lutron model MA-T51. Below is the Lutron model MA-L3T251, which combines a timer on the bottom with a dimmer on top, in the space of a single switch. That's what I've used in both bathrooms to control the fan and the fan light; I'm not sure if that dimmer will work with the Panasonic if you choose a model which has a compact fluorescent light in it. I was planning to get one of the Panasonic units because I read they were very quiet, but I didn't like the non-dimmable fluorescent light or the size of the unit in the ceiling. Others here suggested Fantech, which uses a much smaller, flat grill in the ceiling and puts the fan in the attic. That's what we went with, and I'm happy with it. I know, I know... you're thinking this is just one more thing which seemed simple until you looked into it! ;) -- Eric...See MorePanasonic Whisperlite - far from a whisper!
Comments (7)I have installed many of these fans and have talked to the panasonic rep about them many times There are many different factors that affect this, panasonic makes a more indept installation guide than the one that comes with the fan. A soffit vent will probably always give you too much backpressure. Forget about venting via sofit Install a roof vent that is at least 4". You should be using only metal piping, no vinyl. If its aluminum flex, you derate at least 1" so, 4" aluminum flex is only as good as 3" rigid pipe. If you run 4" rigid to 4" flex, you will have the air speed slow down when it comes to the flex and thus create backpressure within the piping which then causes noise. They will never ever be as quiet as they are with no piping attached. There will always be some increase in noise when they are vented verses not being vented. Often I will come off the fan with 4" aluminum flex, do my turn and point myself towards my roof fitting. At the end of the flex install a 4" to 5" increaser, then head for the roof vent with the 5" rigid pipe. The 5" is optional you could do it with 4" rigid. Another oddity with these fans is that they make less noise with the more pipe you have attached up to a point Make sure that there are no places where condensation can collect in the piping. Make sure all piping is insulated (you can buy pipe insulation that goes over the metal pipe, its basiclly a black bag with insulation inside) The #1 thing that causes noise with these fans is backpressure your contractor is correct. This can occur by air speed changes caused by restrictions. You can go from smaller to bigger pipe as you move away from the fan, but never from bigger to smaller pipe, eg you cannot go from 4" rigid pipe to 4" flex pipe because you are essentially going from 4" to 3" there and slowing the air. If you have any more questions feel free to ask...See MoreMugsy42
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