36' integrated fridge: Thermador Freedom or SZ 736?
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Comments (4)They are both good and you will find opinions supporting either choice -- and criticizing either choice. Figure out what works best for you and your kitchen. I have Thermador and am very happy. I loved not having the grill across the top and the ergonomics of the interior -- especially not having the produce drawer sitting practically on the floor and the ice bin in the very bottom. If you are a foot shorter than I am and think a grill that says "look, I have a built-in fridge" is a good thing, you may be happier with the SZ. Look at how you will use it, the space considerations, where you will put your most often used items and how convenient they are for you to get and put away. Take emotion out of it and look at function. If they still seem equal, go for the lower cost. That's my usual approach -- if it is function and I need it, I will pay for it, but all things being equal, I'd rather save some money....See MoreNew Miele fridge versus Thermador Freedom Columns
Comments (25)Prompted by the latest posts here, we paid a visit to our local distributor who in the past, has been super helpful and nice to deal with. They did not have the new columns yet. But did show me some of the capabilities in their freezer bottom unit. Note that I am just passing on what we were told :). The Mastercool controls look both cool and not so cool :). On the positive front, you get to set the temp and humidity of each bit electronically. I seem to recall on the Bosch, etc it is those plastic sliders. Those sliders donÂt seem all the functional to me as they are easy to bang into/change. On the down side, she had to touch the controls multiple times to get the system to detect. A real switch to control them would have been better than a touch control that is fussy. The main thing my wife liked, and someone should verify that Bosch series donÂt do, is that you there is a bucket where the ice falls into that can be slid left and right. In doing so, you can then use the entire larger slider under it to fill with ice for parties and such. On doors being easier to mount, she said that once the panels are mounted to the door grid, they are hung and then can be adjusted in that way using some mechanism on the door. She said the time to do this is 75 minutes (!). With the other units, she said the panel needs to be taken on and off to adjust the panels and that is what takes a lot of time. The door panels had heavy stainless rails into which the glass buckets hung. You could push the glass bucket up and remove them without removing the slides which hold not. Seemed nice to have them be this way. On wifi connection, in our case, it is a useful thing in that it can detect unit failure or door being left open. We will be having the unit in our vacation house and hate to come to it after a month of being gone, just to find everything gone bad due to unit failure. Not a huge deal mind you, but useful. I asked if there is a charge and she said "not currently." Not sure what that means as far as them charging in the future. I asked her the cost and she gave me an MSRP of $12,000 for dual 30 inch units. I seem to recall that the Gagg was less than $10K so this is quite a premium for the few features. Availability apparently is pretty poor for the freezer. She said someone just ordered a set and the freezer is scheduled for October! Yikes. Overall, it seems that they have done some homework on refining everything around the core of the unit. I donÂt feel that they have created enough value to go beyond the Gagg unit. But for people where price is no object, I think they should seriously consider Miele. We are not quite in that category although close when it comes to our kitchen remodel :)....See MoreThermador Freedom Column Quality
Comments (13)The problem with the doors is that they aren't plug n play like the installers are used to. May not be so much an issue with custom panels since the cabinet installer generally puts those on, but with stainless, they are shipped separately. That protects them in transit and the initial part of the installation when so many SS doors and side get dinged or scratched. When mine were installed, they shipped all the brackets and seals separately too. The guys said it was a lot different than the typical built-in fridge that was more like a DW -- plug it in, slide it back and set a couple of screws. If it needed panels, the cabinet guy would come back to do those. Mine are stainless, so it was a lot different. The fussed a bit over the installation since it was the first they'd done, but they took the time to look at the instructions and do it right. My contractor's guys didn't want to look at installation instructions, the guides to make sure they got wiring placed correctly, etc. They got to do a few things over. My fridge was installed once and correctly. I've had it 2-1/2 years now and love it. I say you salesman has installers that can't bother to read directions or try anything new. If it is different, you don't need it. So he thinks. nutherokie, if you have problems getting anyone to install them, the instructions are quite detailed and complete. A couple of folks here have done them DIY and they looked fabulous. I know I've seen them in a light wood, contemporary kitchen that was DIY installation, but I can't remember the name of the owner. Good luck -- you'll love the columns....See Morex-post Thermador 36 inch FD integrated fridge--anyone own this?
Comments (5)I have had a 30" Freedom refrigerator and 24" Freedom freezer for a year. I haven't had any trouble with them, and I would buy them again in a second. I love to be able to really see everything in there. I am 5' 7", but I would agree anyone under 5'2" or so might have trouble with that top shelf. Mine are panelled and I love the way they disappear into the cabinets. However, getting the panels put on was difficult and took awhile. This will add to your cost, and you might need to take that into account with your budget. Also, the cabinet makers (a local custom shop) didn't make them correctly the first time, and they needed to be redone (at their expense, fortunately....See Morejoc6820
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