hand held showers, someone please help!
twilcox
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Please don't flame me! Hand held shower question
Comments (6)You've gotten some good info. I'm not sure if you want the hand held in place of the fixed wall shower head, or in addition to it. So I'll try to describe both. Part One, you just want the handheld on a sliding bar: If you just want the hand held and don't want the shower head that came with the D500058, then you need the Danze D469058 wall outlet. You'll use a short brass nipple to attach the wall outlet to the copper fitting inside the wall. The same type of copper fitting that a typical shower arm would get threaded on to. The nipples are only $1-$2 at any box store. You can buy several of differing lengths (1-1/2" to 2" generally), use the one that fits, and return the others. The length needed depends on how deep the drop-ear fitting is buried in the wall plus how thick your tile backer board and tile are. Brass nipple: 1/2" Drop-ear fitting: Your copper tubing get soldered into the "smooth" opening, the shower arm of the shower head or your brass nipple for the wall outlet get threaded into the threaded end. Use teflon tape of teflon pipe dope on all threaded joints. When you plumb it, have one port from your supply valve go to the tub spout, the other port that would normally feed the shower head will instead be plumbed to the Danze wall outlet. Screw one end of the handheld hose to the wall outlet. Attach the other end of the hose to the handheld. Mount the wall bar on the wall. Attach the handheld to the wall bar. Part two, you want the handheld in addition to the fixed shower head on the wall: You'll still need the Danze D469058 wall outlet. You'll also need a diverter valve. I took a quick look at Danze's offering and only see a 4-port diverter valve. All you actually need is a 3-port valve, but a 4-port can still work and allows you to stay in the Danze family. The Danze 4-port is actually designed to have one if its ports capped if you don't need all three outlet ports, the cap is even supplied with the valve, so they make it easy. If you want to go with a 3-port diverter, pick anything you like. I'll stick with Danze for the description: You'll need the Danze D130000BT diverter valve and the Danze D560858T Parma trim kit to go with it. The installation instructions that come with the diverter valve are pretty self explanatory. However... Your hot and cold water supplies will feed the valve that came with the 500058 kit. That valve has two outlet port. One will go to the tub spout, the other now goes to the inlet of the diverter valve. You'll use the supplied cap to cap one of the three outlet ports on the diverter. One of the uncapped ports will go to the fixed shower head. The other port will go to the Danze wall outlet which in turn will feed the handheld. The Danze 4-port diverter affords you the opportunity to feed just the handheld, just the fixed shower head, or both simultaneously....See Moreplacement of hand-held shower?
Comments (6)Well it's really your decision on whether you want to trade form for function. In my case, I have never thought a bar looked badly. It simply never crossed my mind. When we built, I wanted a bar pretty badly because I came from the exact situation you were considering and I hated it. When I diverted to the handheld, the power of the spray spun the handheld around on the pivet point and I had to make sure I had it in my hand when I diverted the water. I never could use the handheld as shower head on the pivot because it wasnt in the right spot. We had four people using one shower and nothing was ever in the right spot for any of us. It was a no-brainer for us that we would never get ourselves in that "fixed position" again. With the handheld on the bar, you save yourself the cost of a showerhead PLUS a handheld. We were then able to afford a quality company, Grohe, for one of our baths. We did make a huge mistake in choosing Moen for our master bath, however. We have had nothing but problems. We only chose them originally because the polished brass (very desirable at that time) was more affordable...now I know why.......See MoreHelp re using shower head & hand-held together set-up
Comments (1)The spec sheets are vague and lacking information on the diverter operation. You can contact the company direct with your questions. See link. Also the Rain type shower heads are designed for gentle rain shower, but the handheld will feel more powerful and apparently has three settings. Hope That helps, Dan Martyn Here is a link that might be useful: Hansgrohe Technical Assistance...See MoreHelp with hand held shower for claw foot tub
Comments (9)I've had mine, similar to the one pictured above, from Vintage Tub for ten years. I did not want to spend a lot , so I was worried, but they were very helpful and answered all of my questions over the phone. I had it sent to me, and then installed by a plumber, and have loved using it ever since....See Moreaz88
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