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Here is a link that might be useful: Miele Futura Press Release

Wow, it definitely is 'futura' -- the press release is dated for tomorrow!

I called up the local Miele showroom, and they did get a couple Futura units in, but the rest are being installed next week, as the local dealers will be coming up for product training. I'll probably stop up later in the week to take a look at them, and also see if the newer racks will fit in last years G2000 units. I'll snap a few pics, if they let me.

The Miele USA site is now updated with the Futura models.
There is the Diamond, Dimension Plus, Dimension, Crystal, and Classic.

It looks like the Diamond takes the place of the La Perla, Dimension Plus replaces the Excella, Dimension replaces the Optima, Crystal replaces the Diamante, and Classic replaces the Inspira.

Here is a link that might be useful: Miele Futura G500 series

Did you notice that only the Diamond comes with a "complimentary" 5 year warranty? All you have to do is spend upwards of $3k on a DW to get the "free" warranty.

Yeah, I did notice that. But over in the UK and Canada they run warranty promotions on a lot of their products all the time. If you take the price of the Diamond ($2800) and subtract $250 for the warranty, then you'd get $2550. But the Dimension is in the $1600-1700 range + $250 warranty = $1950, which is still a big price difference between the Diamond and Dimension.

It's not a "free" warranty - they have simple added the underwriting into the price of the unit just like Gaggenau did a few years ago.

WOW! I just sent an email to my Miele dealer. I want the Futura Diamond G 5915 SCi in Clean Touch Stainless!

I love it. While my La Perla II is awesome, and works beautifully..I gotta have those LED lights!! I am such an appliance wh*re! :)

@larsi, I just read some older posts last night in which you called the new features of the Futura machines "gimmicky" and you were fine with your La Perla II. You really are an appliance junkie ... lol ;)

I was searching last night as I am considering getting a new dw today. As you may remember from laundry posts, I live not far from Miele's Canadian warehouse where they do sell end of line merchandise.

They have quite a current selection of pre-futura models available. They have the La Perla II at 40% off. I am trying to decide La Perla II or Optima or Diamente Plus ... I'm not as freaky about my dw as I was about my washer/dryer so I'm good with the last generation.

When I read this comment from you this morning I really did laugh out load.

It's not a "free" warranty - they have simple added the underwriting into the price of the unit just like Gaggenau did a few years ago.

No Sh!t Sherlock.

That is why free was in quotes.

@livebetter...

Of course some of the features of the new Futura Diamond are "gimmicky"...I just love the flashy LED lights (my German car has them too, and they border a fine line between tacky and flashy). I'm drawn to them like candy though!!

I had 2 La Perla I's and now my La Perla II. They are excellent machines, and you will appreciate the La Perla features over your other 2 choices. Also, the La Perla is SO quiet. According to Miele, the new Futura Diamond is even quieter than the La Perla II...and those LED lights. M-U-S-T-T-T-T have LED lights. LOL :)

Hey dee

no need for profanity - I was simply trying to point out that the price of the warranty is included in the new revised price for THAT model. The xtra features alone do not reflect the entire increase in price over last generations TOL model. In other words - they are trying out a new profit gimmick to see if it will stick.

Your inference was only after eclipsing the $3k mark would you be deemed worthy of the included warranty. Miele could and may include the "free" warranty at the sub $2k level also! Trust me, you don't want to get in a pissing contest with me.

They whole extended warranty thing is for folks that just don't sleep well at nite anyway. I mean , isn't part of the point of getting a Miele because the quality and longevity are already superior to begin with? Plus the Already included two year warranty. Why would I NEED an extended warranty?

Or, are you suits at Miele going try and tell me you have slashed quality so I need the warranty - and you are just plain out raping me on the purchase price now.

They now have all the user manuals for the Futura dishwashers listed on the Miele US site.

There are a few differences I've noticed between the Dimension and the Dimension Plus units.
1)The Dimension has an Express wash mode, where the Dimension Plus removes it and has the Quiet wash mode (that is also on the Diamond). But only the Diamond has both the Quiet Wash and Express Wash, plus all those extra modes.
2) The Dimension Plus says that it opens the door after the drying cycle, just like the Diamond. The regular Dimension does not open the door after drying.
3) The Dimension Plus has a Q4 sound level (same as Excella), and the Dimension is Q3 (same as Optima).

So it seems that the Dimension Plus is mostly an 'in between' model between the regular Dimension and the Diamond. Similar to how the Excella was between the Optima and the La Perla.

Since the regular Dimension runs in the $1700-1800 range, and the Diamond is around $2800, it would be interesting to see what the price of the Dimension Plus will be (it's not listed on AJ Madison site yet).

Geez guys. . . 2k -3k for a dishwasher? I really don't get it . . . although I do agree LED lights are cool ;). I would love to find a 600.00 dishwasher that cleans well and has a delay so I can turn it on at night so sound isn't an issue - my sights are set low :)

athensmomof3,

When my kitchen remodel was done in 2006, we went with a GE Profile dishwasher that was about $700. In the year that I owned it, it was serviced about 6-8 times due to several issues, such as the water intake pump. Due to all the service calls, Lowes took it back and gave me an in-store credit. After a few months, I got the Electrolux Wave Touch which was $1200. For the price, it was not made well, and the mounting brackets kept coming off, due to a design flaw. So that went back to Lowes and got the full credit back. After looking around for a year, I went with the Miele Diamante for $1400, which was $200 more than the Electrolux, or twice the price of the GE, but the quality on the Miele is much better.

If I didn't get the Diamante last year, I would get the Dimension this year.

It looks like the AJ Madison site now has the rest of the Futura models listed.

Here's the prices, depending on the front configuration:
Diamond $2549-$2749
Dimension Plus $1829
Dimension $1749-$1949
Crystal $1479-$1749
Classic $1249-$1349

So for the prefinished, the Diamond G5915SCISSSS is $2699, Dimension Plus G5705SC $1829, Dimension G5505SC $1749, Crystal G5105SC $1479, and Classic G4205SCSS $1349.

Based on the prices, I would say the "most band for the buck" would be the Dimension $1749 or the Dimension Plus $1829. That is because those have the better baskets and the 3D cutlery tray, which the Crystal and Classic do not. The only reason to go with the Dimension Plus (at $80 more than the regular Dimension) is the Q4 sound rating, it has the Extra Quiet wash more, and the door opens at the end of the drying cycle to help with drying.

Here is a link that might be useful: AJ Madison

Out of curiosity I was looking at the Miele Canada site, and noticed they offer a 5 year and 10 year extended warranty on their dishwasher. I wonder why in the US they only have the 5 year, which is really 4 years after the 1 year manufacturer's warranty.

@fauguy, I think you're obsessed with these new dishwashers ;)

No, not obsessed, just interested when new stuff comes out. What I find interesting is that the Futura models are only about $80 more than the older models they replaced.
If I was in the market for a new dishwasher, I'd probably go with the Dimension or Dimension Plus unit. But my Diamante is only 15 months old, so I'll probably be keeping this for a while. It will be out of warranty in 4 years, so if anything went wrong with it after that time, then maybe replace it with a new model. Who knows, but in 4-5 years these new Futura models might be discontinued and a newer series could be out.

Just a heads up for forum members or lurkers who ordered and have not yet received their Miele dishwasher prior to the release of the new version. You might want to call Miele to "upgrade" your order.

I emailed customer service (Canada) to ask if I was still getting the Diamante in light of the changeover and I was offered the opportunity an upgrade to the equivalent (Crystal) for no extra money or choose a higher level for more money. In Canada, there is no price difference between the Diamante and Crystal. I was also able to keep the 10 year warranty promotion that was in place when I ordered the Diamante (so long as I upgraded).

I had a look at the new Crystal and 2 improvements swayed my decision to change: a) the baskets are easier to pull out (there is a big plastic tab that acts as a handle) and I believe there is a new configuration that allows for thicker plates, and b) the door is easier to close. I played around with the 3D cutlery tray on the next level up - I don't believe it's worth the upgrade as it seems most useful for one balloon whisk or a soup ladle. The most versatile baskets are a few levels up and goes for more money along with other features like the LED lighting and quieter operation, etc.

That's funny about the balloon whisk. Except that they only get put in one place in the La Perla we have.

Intensive Mode sounds like the bees knees!

The Intensive Mode says that it uses higher water pressure on the bottom rack for pots/pans, while using less water pressure in the upper basket for delicate items/stemware. Sound interesting, but its one of those wash modes that I'd probably never use.

But here is one difference that I've noticed...
On all of the Futura models, it comes with the auto sensor, that measures the soil level in the water and adjusts the wash times. But on the older units, that was only on the Optima and higher, not on the Diamante or Inspira.

I was able to stop at the local appliance store and too a few pictures of the new Futura models.

Here is the front of the Diamond that replaces the LaPerla, but it doesn't have
the wood-cabinet face installed yet.

The bottom basket on the Diamond.
All the spikes on the front fold down (see the orange clips).

Middle basket on the Diamond.
Not a lot has changed here since the LaPerla.

Here's the new 3D Cutlery tray.
I like how the two sided can move back and forth
to make room for larger glasses.
But the middle part that moves up and down is sort
of a gimmick, there's really no reason why you
wouldn't just leave it in the lower position.

Here s the bottom rack on the Crystal, which replaces the Diamante Plus.
Differences here the Diamond are that there isn't
as much foldable spikes on the front, and
not as many fold down stemware slots on the sides.

I didn't take pictures of the middle and upper rack
on the Crystal, since those are identical to
what is on the Diamante that I own.
The Crystal does not have the 3D Cutlery tray.

This is the front of the Classic G2505 that replaces the Inspira.

The lower rack on the Classic.
This one on display has the cutlery basket instead
of the cutlery tray on top.
It also doesn't have any fold-down spikes on the front,
or the side stemware holders.

And here's the Futura model comparison sheet.
If I didn't already have the Diamante and was going to buy one, I'd probably go with the
Dimension or Dimension Plus, since those have a majority
of the features and are still in the $1600-1800 range,
which is $1000 less than the Diamond.

Great information so far! Thank you very much indeed :)
I swung by my local distributor today and I like the look of the value of the Dimension for my needs, compared to the other Miele 2011 models.
Interestingly the sales guy said that for his money the diamond was worth "Maybe" 300-500 USD more than the dimension :)
What do you folk think about the installation of such dishwashers?

I agree that the extra $1000 USD for the for Diamond is a bit much (for me), but if a person can afford it, then go for it. Though I think it should realy only be about $2200-2300, since the Dimension and Dimension Plus are in the $1600-1800 range.

When my Diamante Plus was installed last year, the two guys said they are made to be easy to install, as all the hoses and power cords come already attached. All they have to do is to level the thing, tighten the 4 side-mounting screws, and attach it to the water line, drain line, and plug it in. I watched them do it, and was amazed that it only took like 15-20 minutes total (even though the delivery and installation change was $150!).

@livebetter, where is this miele distributor and how can I contact them? I am moving from the US to Toronto in a few weeks.

@threecb, it's not a distributor. It's Miele's Canadian warehouse. They have a "store front" called Miele Unboxed where they sell all kinds of things. I found out they sell all the Miele Care products too.

You can go to their website (linked here).

They are only open Thurs - Sat but they post their inventory late Wed or early Thurs morning.

Here is a link that might be useful: Miele Unboxed - Toronto, Canada