Class 2, don't look if you have not finished the first class :)

14 years ago

Getting this out on my lunch break:

Just some more info to ponder.

Tablesetting List/Road Map/Check list

I have this on Excel, I love using that program for stuff like this. I am putting it in word and copying it over to you all in GW. But, of course you would use what ever method suits you, most of this just comes naturally to me now, but I do like to use this check list if I see a more complicated setting that someone has done, or if I am designing one up for me. I love analyzing table settings (weird but true).

This is just how I do things, use your own taste to what will work for you, this is just an example of how I do things. Ill have a few comments to you all through this, they are just here in this case to help guide you.

Now that you have done the First Practice (donÂt peek ahead if you havenÂt done the first exercise) you will know by now to fill in the blanks with descriptive words about each item seen or that you are choosing for yourself in your table setting.

LAYER 1

Surface layer material of the table:

Do I have to improvise the table (ex: make it bigger with plywood on top, or place a round top over a smaller table, use the extenders that came with the table..etc

Glass:

Wood (what color):

Tile (any designs):

Wicker:

EtcÂ

LAYER 2

Tablecloth, color etc., print?:

Or no tablecloth

Place mats

Napkin: cloth/or for a more casual meal then paper

Table runner

Bunched cloth of some kind (ex: a shawl used as part of the centerpiece dÃ©cor)

LAYER 3

Color theme, this is important to have an understanding of what is somewhat considered an "art" choosing a color theme for your table.

Your china or other quality of dishware

Do I want to mix different brands/styles dishes in the setting?

Do I want to mix different brands/styles of glassware?

Silver ware (the standard, fork, knife, spoon) the amount of utensils depends on the courses; there are loads of online examples of proper table utensil set ups.

Glass ware: water glasses, glass for soda or orange juice, coffee, tea etc

Crystal glasses: wine, red, white, even water etc

Salt and pepper shakers (how many sets)

Salt cellars

LAYER 4

Moving on to the Centerpiece area. This is where the fun begins.

Use a decorative tray to hold your centerpiece design; therefore itÂs easier to remove if you want.

THEME of centerpiece, object or objects you want to use, consider this to be most of the time to be your FOCAL POINT.

Basically you can use anything in your centerpiece area as your heart desires as long as you can work it in. IMHO You are only limited by your imagination and resources. There are some of the "old-timers" here on GW that have seen my table settings, so you know that I love to use everyday accessories/objects that are already in my home.

HEIGHT, if using a tall object to start with for your table setting and you are just going for the "wow" EFFECT for the guests that are mingling in the vicinity of the table, just make sure you remove it before sitting down to dine, so everyone can see each other. You can replace the taller centerpiece with a low flower arrangement, or leave the area open if you typically have food platters/items on the table for your meal. It just depends on whether you serve family style or not.

Candlesticks: what type of material, glass, crystal, metal, wood etc

Votive candle holders (donÂt use scented, it interferes with the enjoyment of the meal)

Candle color etc

Color theme of Centerpiece area: this is determined by relating it to the color and design of your dishes, the occasion etc.

Ceramic statuesÂobjects of interest.

Other small decorative objects scattered about. Example: for Christmas you might have some crystals or garland scattered through it.

Are you using place setting cards, it can be for just the plain fun of it or use it for formal use.

Keep in mind too the decorative environment surrounding your dining room table, that is important too.

There are lots of proper etiquette rules on the internet, if you are doing your table setting formally, then you probably should check on the rules if you want to be with-in "standards". I follow most of them, but I also break a few, it just depends on what the occasion is and who is dining with me.

So, you might want to do the same exercise over again, but this time add in all the descriptive features. Or, if you are feeling bored with that, try doing page 31. Let me know how you do, and of course any questions?

The next class/post will be about developing the overall theme for the table, to include the centerpiece.

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Comments (48)

mary_ruth
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Well Judith! I hope you got to eat something too for your lunch break!
I copied all this, now will get away from the computer and review the notes.
You are something ELSE! I am so impressed with your LEFT BRAIN!!! ha ha! You are more technical than you claim! You are a professional my friend! Thanks again!
judithva
Original Author
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Thank you Mary Ruth, you are too kind! I know my techie brain is lacking in the computer "fix-it" department, every time I start to fix something in my computer it is usually a very dangerous thing.... LOL

Is, anyone doing page 31? Plus there are close-up on the next page or so. It is alot easier LOL
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mo13
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Judith,
I worked on this exercise yesterday. I interpreted the exercise as defining and listing details if I were to do a table setting for something. maybe not the exact same as page 58. Is that correct? Or do you want us to analyze the settings on that page and list how I would reproduce that effect? Sorry for the confusing question.

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judithva
Original Author
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Mo13, I am a little confused are you still working on the first lesson, or are you finished with that and starting here on exericise 2.

If you are doing lesson 2, you can either further define the first lesson with more descriptive sentences (EX: instead of just listing dinner dish, you would put dinner dish, brown transfer-ware type design with a design of a bird in the middle.)

If you would rather just go on to the second lesson since you already did lesson 2, then go to page 31, do the listing with enough description as possible about each item listed. (this makes you a good shopping list if ever you decided to try to replicate the table design.)

Thanks, I enjoy doing this alot, so if I can make it a little easier for others to do then that is even better.
mo13
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Judith,
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luvstocraft
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Went to look at page 31, seems like a big difference in the two tables we've looked at. First one had such allot of items, this one seems more easily "doable" for me. I'm making my list for this one now and will be back soon. Luvs
oldalgebra
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Finally! I went to page 31 too.There's a lot to do. I see why you put yours into a spreadsheet. If I knew how to create one, I'd do that too and carry a printout with me.
I'm pooped. Fun though.
plainjane425
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
As elegant as the first table was..it was a bit 'over the top' for my liking...The table on 31... is much more simplistic...yet elegant in an 'understated way'...
working on my list.. Thanks again judith, for your dedication..
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judithva
Original Author
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Hi all, just checking in, I don't want you all to think I have left you hanging.

As alot of you have guessed, the reason I posted the first table is because it was involved, over the top, and different. It embraced the style theme of elegant and rustic. Nothing was really too fussy, even the silver chargers/servers were all different, easily collectable over the years if one wanted from antique shops, even thrift shops and yard sales possibily. I figured if you all could dive right on in on something hard, then the "normal" but still elegant would seem like a breeze to understand.

I just used Excel (cause I love it, and use it alot in my job), but you can used Word, or even make your list up on a simple lined paper and have it photocopyed, that way you can take it with you where ever you maybe. For instance, it you come across a lovely display, you can just whip out your blank list page, and fill in the area next to the listed areas what the store was using. As someone had mentioned taking a pic is great IF they allow it, if not, I rely on my check list. And of course using the check list at home on a book or photo off the intenet gives you a great road map. Yes, you can print off a photo (which is a great thing to do too, but when you have the list with it, you won't miss purchasing or looking for that item.

Another great tip I use. I have one of those small DVD portable players, about 5"x 8" I think, that slides right into my purse, and in the player is my inspiration photo disk of things that I already own and am working on (as a reminder, and photos of photos I have taken, or got off the internet, it really helps my feeble brain to stay on track. OR they sell the "photo frames" that are down load able, Walmart has one for about $45, very small, works on batteries, slips easily in the purse, so that is a great traveling PHOTO reminder/help.

I will put up a example list that I use, after more folks have finished, again, this is a exercise to see what YOU come up with for helping yourself "see" things.

Have you all noticed that one could use almost any nice design of china on that table (page 31), you would not have the china style they used, you want to used what is considered the "base" design of the table. Just about everything on that table is easily obtainable for everyone (plus you may already own some of the items). For example the blue and white porcelian vase could be found quite inexpensively in stores like Ross, TJMAX, Marshalls etc. The mirrored place mats were all over the place last Christmas, in partictular, Targets, even Micheals has them. Use, inexpensive OR expensive crystal (depends on what you have and what you want to spend) even a plan simple glass, if it is "footed" it still takes on an elegance when grouped together. Silver ware is pretty easy too, after all, we all have silverware. The table cloth is easy (top and the bottom one. Copying that table is easily done. Would you agree?

Well that is it for now, still waiting for more people to get thru this exercise.
gasuz
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
I finished lesson 2 when I did lesson 1! It wasn't too bad because I have been doing it with rooms on RMS for awhile.I am new to doing it with the tabescapes...

I started with (instead of layers)
Table base and chairs
Linens
Dishes
Centerpiece
Accessories

and then I had descriptions/details for each...item, #, color, size, finish,etc

and I already made my own Tablescape excel chart.... last week, so I could enter in what I used for a particular arrangement.......

I tend to "overthink" and "overorganize".... but I thought once I had accumulated some tablescapes, I could sort the data to find or create one. A photo might help...but I would probably miss a few of the details (and often it is the details that make it!)

gasuz
judithva
Original Author
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Great start Gasuz, that is what it is all about, trying something in a "certain way" and then tweaking it to work out for what is best for you. I ALWAYS "overthink" and "overorgazize" my tablescapes, I don't like to miss the details, as you had said, often the details is what sets a table apart from others, AND it also personalizes the table scape to YOU in the long run, once you can break away from another persons style, you develop your own.
kathleen_li
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
I did it...lots of notes...
judithva
Original Author
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
hi all, forgive me for not being here a few days, I was off work for a day, and of course my laptop decided to give me troubles for the last 2 days (the "arrow key" with the laptop "pad" doesnt work for me anymore, I have to hit the left button on the "laptop mouse pad" in order to be able to do anything) if any one knows how to get the laptop style mouse pad to work with the arrow pointer key let me know..maybe I just locked it up somehow?)

Kathleen, thats great, lots of notes! Did it help you in the process of "seeing" the design?

I am guessing most of you are finished with this exercise.
By looking at this tablesetting, did anyone see how you could incorporate it into your tablesetting with the dishes you own, and if so, what did you change or add to the design to make it work?

PS, if anyone did like the mirror placemats in the photo and want to buy something similar, Target just got some in for the new holiday season, they are sort of ovalish, with a pretty edging to them, they were $12 and change for each one.
I have mirrored place matts and they are fun to have for holidays or when you are wanting to add a little sparkle to the dining occasion, mirror, like crystal always looks so pretty by candle light.

OK, got to go for now I am off to work.
kathleen_li
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Re your tip about the mirrored mats, I wonder if the new Krylon mirror spray paint I posted about would do the trick for those of us who can't afford 12 dollars on a mat. Maybe that spray on an inexpensive one would work.or piece of thin wood..I haven't found it yet, but when I do I will share my results.

Another option is the craft supply catalog..I bought small round mirrors for under the votives, and a few large rounds for under my Nativities, and they were pretty reasonable. I am sure people can Google it if interested, or I believe I still have the catalog if anyone needs the name. I got mine several years ago, before forums! LOL
They are not as pretty as Judith's but they so sparkle..:)
luvstocraft
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
I was just in Big Lots, and they had a three piece mirror "runner" for around $12. Didn't see any individual ones.

I'm looking forward to the next part of the class on creating pretty centerpieces. ;o)

Luvs
judithva
Original Author
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Kathleen, I don't know if that would work or not?, You would still have to put the cost together of the spray paint and glass with finished edges. At Michaels you can get a decent size, more affordable especially if you use their 40% coupon per mirror off.

Luvs mirror runners are really pretty too. I have one of those too, I liked using it when I had my longer oval dining table. (although it would look great on a buffet too.)
judithva
Original Author
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
I tried to copy and paste my excel tablesetting List Sheet, but as some/most of you can tell, it doesn't look like excell. Unfortunatly the grid lines don't copy over to this forum box. But anyway you get the idea that there are boxes/areas for each answer you put in. Also, on my Excel sheet, there are seperate spots where you can add or insert more info.

Well I hope this gives you an idea of the Roadmap/List that I like to play with. I hope it helps.

PS I just noticed when I PREVIEW HERE the coloumns BRAND NAME and QUANITY are not place in the correct position here, even though I tried to fix it, it won't work.

Anyway the BRAND NAME is ment for you to write in that area that corresponds with what the item is for EX: Mikasa, Waterford etc

QUANITY means writing in how many items of the corresponding title is ment for: For Eample: Cloth Napkins: 4 Chargers: 4 ETC..

BRAND QUANTITY
NAME
OCCASION FOR EXAMPLE: Christmas
COLOR THEME FOR EXAMPLE Pink and White
LAYER 1

SURFACE OF TABLE ETC
SIZE AND SHAPE (ROUND, SQ, ETC)
GLASS
WOOD
TILE
WICKER
METAL

LAYER 2

TABLE CLOTH
PLACEMATS
NAPKINS
NAPKIN RING
TABLE RUNNER
CLOTH OTHER

LAYER 3
COLOR THEME
CHARGER
DISHES
DISHES
DISHES
DISHES
GLASSWARE
CRYSTAL GLASSWARE
CRYSTAL GLASSWARE
SILVERWARE
TEAPOT OR COFFEE POT
TEA CUP OR COFFEE CUP
S & P SHAKER
SALT CELLAR

LAYER 4
CENTER PIECE

FOCAL POINT ITEMS:
ITEM IN FOCAL
ITEM IN FOCAL
ITEM IN FOCAL
ITEM IN FOCAL
ITEM IN FOCAL
ITEM IN FOCAL
HEIGHT
CANDLESTICKS
TAPER
VOTIVE
VOTIVE CANDLE
VOTIVE COLOR
TAPER COLOR
CERAMIC STATUE
WICKER PIECE
LARGE PLATE
FLOWERS
VASE

OTHER
GIFTS/TOKENS

CHAIRS

So this is what I use, it is very interchangeable to your needs, this just works for me. You can make up your own style ROADMAP for your own best use.
kathleen_li
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Oh I know it wouldn't have the pretty edge, but maybe a little creativity could hide it..and I don't know if it work either, LOL, but I think I will try and do a cost out too. By the time I could afford buying the others 2 at a time, I'll be to old to cook! LOL

Good map!
kareen
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Finally received my book and have done the 1st lesson on paper and the second one in my head . I have to say I don't like either of these settings as much as I like yours Judith and I am trying to figure out why. Is it the absence of vibrant color and whimsy? I don't do "elegant outdoors" but I love the outdoors so I can't imagine it would be that . Or maybe its just that I like your taste better and/or you are even better at this than Mary Carol !
This has definately been a lesson in observation and I am enjoying the class. And to top it off I hit a garage sale today and for 2 dollars I purchased a cake stand and cover and the part that holds the cake has a band of gold on it's edge ! I had my eyes on a cut glass one at the store for $30
but this one fits the need and saves my purse! Thanks for doing this for us . Kareen
judithva
Original Author
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
kathleen, definately let us know if the stuff works, I was out today and did not find it, maybe it is not in my area yet.

kareen. aw, thanks, but, it is still worth doing just to practice on tablesetting and you are already making comparisons on what pleases your eye, so you are already making great progress. I do like Mary Carol, at least most of it, but I like a whole lot of most everything when it comes to tablesettings LOL. But I have found some that weren't really "my thing" but I really looked at it and was able to still get great ideas just from the set up, and I subsituted things for what I liked and they usually came out well.

Wonderful that you came away with such a great deal on the cake plate! The gold band on the edge is a very nice detail too, it will look lovely with the upcoming holidays.
delphinium33
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Finished lesson two. Having fun. I'm looking at everything in the stores differently now.
judithva
Original Author
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Hi delphinium,

I'm happy you are enjoying it, and definately happy you are looking at all the possibilities of items you can use. I shop the mens area (hankerchiefs, especially around Christmas are really nice for cloth napkins)to be used on a table, some of them are quite elegant, I have seen really nice boxed sets with embroiderd initials for a great price, especially the after Christmas sales. Even the toy departments have had some interesting possiblilities. I look EVERYWHERE!! Some times it takes me forever to get thru a store when I am on the "hunt" LOL
dreamgoddess
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
I've finished part 2 and it was much easier than the first tablesetting. I also liked the look of this setting much better than the first one.

Luvs, I'm so glad you mentioned seeing the 3 piece mirrored runners in Big Lots. I had found one on ebay that I was going to buy and it's about $26 with shipping and insurance. Instead, I called my sister...there's a Big Lots about 2 miles from where she lives. She's going tomorrow and see if she can find one for me there.

Judith, thank you for sharing how you set up your spreadsheet. I think that's a fantastic idea!
dreamgoddess
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Judith, on your Excel Roadmap under Layer 4, what does the Height refer to? Is it the candlesticks, focal items, or what? This one confused me. LOL!
judithva
Original Author
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Dreamgoddess, sorry about the confusion. Height is there for me for several reasons. If I am copying something I just try to do an educated guess about the height of something so that I will know for instance it is a "candles stick that is 20 inches tall", and maybe the object next to it is about 15 inches tall. It helps me to remember that not only am I considering the height for people "seeing thru it", but also the heights of things that I shop for, so I don't buy a candlestick that is too short etc. And yes, it applys to the Focal items too, "how tall is the bunny that is the focal point, or how tall will the stacking plates be if they are the focal point, how tall is the flower arrangement going to be etc.

Again the key here is DETAIL, DETAIL, DETAIL.....it is what makes a tablescape or vignette.
Hope that makes sense.
dreamgoddess
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Thanks Judith, that helped alot. I'm trying to set up my own spreadsheet to use and couldn't figure out where to put the height. I just finally made a separate column for it since it's really relating to all the decorative components.

Another question, is there a "rule" for height that you follow in combining your centerpiece with other decorative items? I guess what I'm wondering is if the centerpiece should be such and such amount taller than other elements that you add around it.
bettyd_z7_va
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
FINALLY! Done with lesson 2. Thanks for the spread sheet and all of the extra tips. It is wonderful that we can pick your brain.
So, what's next?
Betty
dining_delight
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
After doing all the preps, event and clean-up from our Harley Dinner Party (was thinking outside the box with that one!) I FINALLY had a chance to do my homework! I enjoyed analyzing that tablescape on Pg. 31 and do feel it is something that wouldn't be too hard to duplicate even if you don't own exactly what is shown. I also love your idea Judith of using Excel spreadsheeds. They can be used for everything from analyzing a table to organizing what items you already own. I have drafted some up and am thinking I may even want to do one this year when I haul out all my Christmas decor and chart out what I have there. Great idea Judith!

DD
kathleen_li
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
OK, DD I need one of those spread sheets for Christmas! I keep a notebook, but a spreadsheet would be good.
I have no idea how to do one though...notebooks I can do!

I always make notes on what I need for the next year, like straw for the Nativity, cause come Dec, can't get any. Now is the time, after Halloween it is cheap!
Purplemoon
14 years ago
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DD and Kathleen, thanks for flipping the ON switch in my little brain. I never thought about listing my Xmas stuff before I pack it away. Boy that would be a big help for the next year. Here I've been trying to remember what new stuff I got from sales back in Jan, not to mention all my old stuff. It would be so nice to have a list, and then I could start pre-planning things. Tho if I had a brain, I'd probably skip this Christmas--or not have gotten this little bundle of Orange Trouble. I shudder at the idea of him and a tree, or in my case several small trees. I think mine might look something like this one I saw...

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(Jim, its not too late to change your mind. You need some color there. LOL)
hugs, Karen
judithva
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14 years ago
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Dreamgoddess, you asked about rule of height...
I look at the centerpiece as another form of a vignette, I always like a tall piece, then with graduating shorter pieces surrounding it, sometimes the centerpiece is very even and equal to each other (picture 2 tallish candlesticks, with a centerpiece of a large ceramic piece or a flower arrangment (if your guests can't see over the centerpiece then you will remove it before dining). But, if things are loosly arranged with odd numbers and such I still like to see item go down in levels for my eye to travel thru.

Betty, I'm happy you got thru the second lesson, I know it takes a while, everyone is busy at this time of year, plus I wanted to make sure everyone that originally signed up had time to get their books and were able to do the home work (I think I lost a bunch of folks though)

diningdelight, I am happy you like the Excel spread sheets, they are very easy to do. I use Excel for SO MUCH. I have an Excel sheet for ALL of my tablesettings, plates, bowls, salt and pepper shakers, napkins ring etc, to include the name brands etc. I know most people will not need to be so intense unless they own alot, but it makes things so much easier for me. I also take a picture of everyting I have, it is my personal "Catalog", I will know at a "click" of what I have and where it is. I also take pictures of almost all my designs, I have tons of stuff that most people have not seen, because they are single settings of me working out different designs, it is enough to remind me in which direction to go without having to do the whole setting until I am ready to do it. And I agree, it is so valuble for tracking all the Christmas stuff I have (again, I have alot more than most, but it helps to remind me when I go shopping thru the year for stuff for the next year that I may still need). For example I am building on a silver decorated tree, I have been collecting silver for 2 yrs, so it will be a good reminder of things I still need to get.

Kathleen a notebook is fine, but a spread sheet is soooo much easier, so if you hone your excel computer skills you won't regret it.

Karen, such a cute pic, but boy, the kitties would never make it in my house with my trees LOL (they probably would not have any room LOL) As it is, I have to be careful at the very bottom of my tree because my little dog Toby, trys to mess with them.

OK,

So I'm sure by now, those that have finished this lesson have seen the difference between a involved tablesetting and a simple one. Just by breaking each item down into a visual roadmap to follow, I would hope that it is not as intimadating as it might have been before. You now have the tools to look at ANY tablesetting and be able to visually and logically be able to break it down into bits and pieces taking the "mystery" out of tablesettings. Basically the first class (the more involved one) is just as simple as the less involved one that you just finished, the only difference was that the more involved one was more time consuming to breakdown, but still very easy to figure out. Now that you understand the mechanics of it, you can move on to understanding that the color matching or contrasting color or "print" plays a significant part in the design too.

One reason why I always tell someone who is new to table settings is to buy a great set of white or cream dishes because with that set of dishes you can later add in another set of dishes... print, geometric, flower design etc you will always have a interesting and stunning table. You don't even need to buy a whole second set, lots of times I just buy the salad plate and bowl in another color, and presto, there is your whole new look for little money...think white and pink, or white and red, or white and green-(one of my faves) etc. You really can start simple and expand from there.

I hope I have answered some of your questions and helped to make some things clearer and easier to you.

So I will start with another lesson in a bit.
Purplemoon
14 years ago
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Judith, it sounds like with all the photos you've taken of your stuff, that you should do an album for us to see your goodies!!
I'm avidly reading your lessons, and saving them. Maybe someday I'll get brave, LOL. Definitely making note of the white or cream dishes!

hugs, Karen
kathleen_li
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
I am sure a spread sheet is better. I will have to see if the Library offers a free class...

Karen, you are very creative, you can do it...but only if you want to and enjoy it! Don't do anything you don't enjoy if you don't have to!
tamgypsy
14 years ago
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I used to be a list person but I know have started to use a spreadsheet. I'm actually using it to plan out all of my Christmas and Winter Tables for this year. They are in my head and not on a picture so every time I think of something I put it into the appropriate spot in the spreadsheet. I color coded the items I have in gree and the ones I still need to find in red. It actually has helped me too in double checking those 'red' items to see if I maybe able to substitute with something I already own.
kathleen_li
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
OMG, Tam!!! I don't think I could do that! After doing lesson plans for 33 years with goals, objectives, methods etc, I like to keep it simple..
But the old addage, fail to plan... plan to fail!
I do lots of notes for dinner parties and entertaining...I guess I should learn...need a teacher though!
judithva
Original Author
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Tam, yep, spreadsheets are great, I wish I could have posted one here that looked exactly like the one I use, but GW would not do a proper cut and paste of Excel. Where there are the normal empty "cells" in the sheet, I will use those for check marks, X's etc for what I have or need after I have designed a new look, it has really helped me since I think I am loosing brain cells as I get older LOL, Excel sheets and yellow stickies are a life saver for me LOL

Kathleen, Excel is really easy, expecially if you just use the basics of Excel. It worth learning :) (and I am NOT a computer person by nature, but I just plodded along...)
dreamgoddess
14 years ago
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I'm a total list maker and always have been, but I never thought of making lists and spreadsheets of the dishes/accessories that I have. I can see where that would be a huge help in knowing what you already have when shopping.

This is definitely something I'm going to put on my to do list.

So when are we moving on the Class 3? I'm looking forward to the centerpieces!
dining_delight
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Judith and others interested, just so you know how easy it was, I "copied" Judith's list right from this post then opened an Excel page and "pasted" it right into the first cell. I did juggle around that Brand Name/Quality error but other than that, it "fit" great and was easy to do. And that motivated me to think about other spreadsheets I want to do.

DD
dining_delight
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
....make that Brand Name/QUANTITY...rushing off to work here and not thinking clearly!

DD
oldalgebra
14 years ago
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Yes, Dining D. You're right. I did it too and I don't even know how to use Excel.
Thanks for pointing that out.
OA
cheryll1952
14 years ago
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Judith,

Could you take a picture of your spreadsheet and then post the picture or the link, or post a screen print?
oldalgebra
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
I am doing this for the first time ever.

Go to the URL and choose: the TablesettingWorksheet.xls
Then click the Upload button.
Someone try this and tell me if this works.
OA
oldalgebra
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
No, wait!

Go to the URL, choose the worksheet and then click the little, tiny circle with the arrow that points down. It's on the same level, to the right of the worksheet's name.

OA
dining_delight
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
Worked for me, OA! You are smart, knowing how to do that! I think that with your help, now everyone should be able to see how the spreadsheet sets up when you cut and paste from Judith's original list on this thread.

DD
judithva
Original Author
14 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago
OA, pretty cool, the only thing to change is the size of the cells. If you go to the top, and put your curser on one of the lines at the edge of the cell, and drag the curser, it will enlarge the cell so the words don't overflow into the next cell, plus if you have a more wordy description it will now fit. I am glad you knew how to do an attachment of the excel like this, I could not figure out how to "show" it to you all. thanks!

PS, the excel in the example that I use is just a guide line for me, you can adjust it to your own personal needs.
mary_ruth
14 years ago
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Ya, and also format the cell to word wrap so you will get more than one line of text into one cell. Thanks for the worksheet! I had made my own but had not gotten to the last list!
oldalgebra
14 years ago
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Mary Ruth et al.,
I know NOTHING about Excel. I have been fooling with it to learn, but every time I touch it, I mess it up.
So, if someone wants to email me a completed sheet, I will post it.
OA
mary_ruth
14 years ago
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OH Class #3 is UP YIPPEE!
http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/christmas/msg1107372429375.html?1

Class 2, don't look if you have not finished the first class :)

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