I would suggest you do a search for Miele Ovens at the bottom of tha appliance main page and invite your husband to read along with you.

In any case good luck on your purchases and Please post to the performance of the units, (Especially the Oven).

Thanks!!

Gary

Gary, Thanks for the reply. Maybe you're alluding to issues Ive heard about Miele having problems with holding temperatures? Ive also heard they might have issued a software fix. I guess Im hoping these were a few lemons, its hard for me to think a good company like Miele wouldnt make a perfectly acceptable oven for me.

YW, Cinnacracker.

That's why it is important for purchasers of all appliances to report their experience with same.

It is entirely possible it was just a "Fluke" with a couple ovens, but if folks post---we have more useful data to use.

Gary

WE have the 30" oven and the 24" steam oven next to it. Sorry, I don't know how to post a photo--but can do so if you tell me how, or I can email it to you if you like. We have both units lined up right under the counter (top flush). The oven goes all the way to the bottom of the cabinet. The steam oven has room for a pull out cabinet below it...which works great.

It is true that the units don't line up. The height of the stainless top plates are different. In fact the oven sticks out a few mm more than the steam oven (Miele says it will eventually flatten). Its really not an issue for us. The handles and styles are the same....so that is good enough for us. That pull out drawer under the steam oven is REALLY helpful.

We're had no quality issues with either unit. We do not, however, monitor the internal temperatures within the oven like other members seem to do.

Paulnextdoor,

OMG! I would be SO appreciative if you can send me a photo or 2! Email is: brbruzda AT hotmail.com

Our designer also put a drawer under our speedoven in the design. But she made the handles align by placing a stainless steel plate above the speedoven. She says it will match the Miele SS "Well", but it still makes me nervous! What do you have in your drawer? Im not sure what to put in mine.

Why doesn Miele say the oven will eventuallly "flatten"? The oven will move? Something with a gasket over time maybe?

Thank you so much for your response. Im loosing sleep over this and the kitchen has to be ordered by 31st due to european holiday.

Cinnacracker

Photos recieved, thanks! For the record, it doesnt look bad at all.
In our set up, these pieces will be in the center of the island, which lines up with the middle of the living room. So it will actually be possible to "sight" down the line of the handles, just like you would check a board for straightness. So for me it makes sense to have the handles line up.
After much thought today, I think we're going to go with the Jenn Air's. As far as I can tell, this is the only set that will line up perfectly in this configuration. Big step down from the Miele, but we have JA now and are ok with them. Plus, the Miele is a financial stretch for us. I guess it doesnt make sense to stretch financially if the outcome isnt absolutely what we wanted right?

Thanks all! Cinnacracker

Since I ran into your post in another thread about the undercounter mounting issue with Kitchenaid, I checked the kuppersbusch.com site. According to their installation manual (the instructions are in the back of the operator manual, available online) that speed oven is approved for mounting underneath a counter. I am not sure that the Kuppersbusch convection ovens would fit your needs for the other one you want to place next to it, but I thought I might as well point the option out to you.

I have no personal experience with Kuppersbusch products and this is not a recommendation other than their speed oven seems to fit your below-counter mounting criterion.

Mojavean,

thanks. funny i ran into Kuppersbusch for the first time on friday. I was so excited because I thought i was really onto something. then I realized their ovens only come in 24" or 36". neither will work for us. (and yes, the oven and speed oven must be the same brand and style).

Thank you for the comment though. I think the electrolux almost works, but its off by 1/2".

For anyone who has the Miele speed oven undercounter -- is it a pain in the back to bend over and set the controls? How about loading/unloading/checking?

Undercounter location would free up other areas so that I can spend more dollars on appliances...

My speed oven is under 42" high granite, in a small island; the oven stands from ~20" to ~37.5" above the floor, so its top is almost 2" above the regular 36" counter beside it.

It works for a speed oven, but the placement is not ideal; lower, if it were set under a regular counter, would be worse. Its OK. As it is, I end up squatting or kneeling to look inside or monkey with controls -- this is their MasterChef version, BTW. I suppose this location is better for a drawer microwave, but I didn't want one of those.

Its not really a problem with loading/unloading, since mostly small / light items go in this oven.

How bad this is for you may depend on your back and your vision. Note that the Chef model could be easier to deal with, since its controls require less reading. You may want to interact with a mock-up taped at the planned height.

I have the chef model underneath a 37.5" counter, so that would be 12"- 36". I have two drawers underneath it, a very narrow one to hold its trays and a larger one that holds MWaveable containers (glass, special plastic).

Personally I have no trouble with the height and bending over. I'm 5'7" and fairly active. I think it's a good height and location. I'd far rather lift heavy hot things up than downward.

I bought this speed oven rather than any other specifically in order to be able to set it below-counter. It works great there, no heat issues. My only complaint is with operating the oven itself. It sports *the worst* manual I have ever seen for anything, There's a lot of button pushing, and they're finicky. Some days I wonder if the fancier machine would have been better, but the slow learning curve is starting to rise. I have no experience with another speed oven to compare, but I am not unhappy we bought this.

paulnextdoor-I have a similar configuration with steam oven next to 30" oven by miele and I am in the process if installation. I would love to see the photo of yours as I think my install has the ovens to low. If you could email me photos -margom@temple.edu I would really appreciate that!

Thanks for you photos and explanation!! It looks very nice.Two questions:What is the thickness of your counters? How is it using the 30" oven ? Your large oven is installed higher than mine will be.

3/4 marble with 1 1/2 inch bullnose that is visible. If you are asking if the oven seems "too high" the answer is no. The door is well below the countertop (i'm not home to measure) and I'm inclined to believe that the higher the oven off the floor, the better.

Sorry-I meant to say mine is installed lower then yours because of the design of the cabinet-3 inches below counter.I am still in construction so I not using the kitchen yet just concerned how it will function. Thanks again for your reply-happy to hear any advice

If you add the 4” push to open warming drawer, it will line up perfectly and the stainless will all match too. Look at the 48” range to see the look. I am doing the same thing.

Sorry, I just noticed the photo is of a 30” oven. You would need the 24” oven for it to line up